Beer, Beer we want more beer

[harribobs]

I'm surprised you didn't try it in May this year. I know you went to the Souvlakia House as you wrote a review (one of the "few"). Maybe the Medousa's raki was more appealing! The "black" beer isn't black like Guinness but, as I say, brown like a bottled IPA (remember John Courage in the 60s/70s, or are you too young?). The black beer really stands out in Greece where almost all the beers are what we would call lagers at home.

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Hi Mike

we always make for the souvalaki house when we arrive late (and a few other times as well) but i went for the Mythos I'd been dreaming about since getting on the plane!  

we don't (or didn't)  really get a lot of southern beers like courage up in the north but i do know what an IPA is like. My favourite pub has it's own brewery and making a magnificent IPA along with many others

[a href=\"http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/marble%20beers.html]Marble Arch[/url]

[harribobs]

Beer.  AAH- a most satisfying drink.  

The pic in this tread is great, it makes me thirsty, and makes me dream . . . But it features a level horizon that only can be achieved by supporting the camera on the bar   (my experience)

  The trick: avoid horizons


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avoid horizons...... :'(

[George]

I do agree with Mike G., I do like Mythos but can only handle about 4 or 5 then lager becomes a bit watery. I'm a real ale/bitter man, if you see what I mean.

Best beer of the day? After a long hard day on the far end beach then straight to Antonis Place.

What about Bertina, available in the Panorama in Mythios??
george g...

[harribobs]

What about Bertina, available in the Panorama in Mythios??
george g...
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  I missed that one, it doesn't seem to be as popular as it was a few years ago

not dis-similiar to Alpha?

I do like Mythos but can only handle about 4 or 5 then lager becomes a bit watery

we tend to drink wine in the evening, with and after our meal, the mythos does fill me up too much

[Mike G]

Marble Arch
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Marble Arch brewery looks interesting and its good to see that in spite of the best (or worst) efforts of the major brewers, real ale breweries, including micros, are flourishing and the latter are springing up all over the place.

I'm not quite sure of the significance of the beers being vegan. With the possible exception of finings (which not all brewers use) I can't see what there is in beer which would not meet a vegan's requirements. I make beer at home and there is nothing in it derived from an animal.

Mike

[harribobs]

I can seriously recommend their beers, the IPA is my favourite but i've been known to have the odd pint of Chocolate Heavy, a sort of bournville guinness and the Ginger beer is quite refreshing and different

as for them being vegan   i really wouldn't know but always wondered what these people use

sheep    

or these  woof

[toma2]

This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  

Living in Norway with its very high alcohol prices reduces quite effectively the enjoyment of beer, but like all norwegians I compensate for this every time I go abroad.    

When in GB I prefer to drink Guinnes stout. I have also  tasted some really good ales, and I have a question to you who sit on the expertise: what is the difference between Real Ale and Pale Ale?
   
Tom

[Rodger]

When in GB I prefer to drink Guinnes stout. I have also  tasted some really good ales, and I have a question to you who sit on the expertise: what is the difference between Real Ale and Pale Ale?
  
Tom
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I'm not claiming to be expert so I'll quote some people who do.

The term "Real Ale" was invented by a pressure group called the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA): here's a definition from their website www.camra.org.uk

Real ale is beer brewed from traditional ingredients, matured by secondary fermentation in the container from which it is dispensed, and served without the use of extraneous carbon dioxide.

Real ale is also known as 'cask-conditioned beer', 'real cask ale', 'real beer' and 'naturally conditioned beer'.

Pale ale is a particular style of beer; there's also India Pale Ale, Light Ale, Brown Ale and so on, you can read definitions at the website of Michael Jackson (no, not that one): [a href=\"http://www.beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html]http://www.beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html[/url]


Hope this helps.

[toma2]

Thanks Rodger

I would not trust (that) Mickael Jacksons judgement on anything as vital as beers. This might biased, but.....  

Great link, I just spent about an hour on the site and enjoyed every minute.   Theory is good, but can't beat real thing, so I am glad I am booked in for two weeks at University of York in spring. Day time pursuits will be all academic, but  the evening activities are more on the practical side.  


Tom

[Mike G]

This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  

Living in Norway with its very high alcohol prices reduces quite effectively the enjoyment of beer, but like all norwegians I compensate for this every time I go abroad.   
Tom
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Hello Tom,

As alcohol is very expensive in Norway is it possible to make your own? Although considered in the UK these days as a rather "anoraky" thing to do (i.e. unfashionable, carried out by a rather dull person) I still make beer, but at high strength (10-11% ABV). One pint is plenty for me. If you can't buy a kit locally then bring some back from York. It's really easy.

In the 1960's-1980's making beer and wine at home was fashionable in the UK but not any more. However you can still buy kits or there are always the base ingredients.

I can offer you assistance online if required.

Mike

[Mike G]

This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  
Tom
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For those in the UK, Wetherspoons now have a wide range of bottled lagers of the world (Polish, Turkish, Mexican, Czech, etc, etc). Mind you, I'll stick to their excellent real ales.

Mike

[toma2]

As alcohol is very expensive in Norway is it possible to make your own? Although considered in the UK these days as a rather "anoraky" thing to do (i.e. unfashionable, carried out by a rather dull person) I still make beer, but at high strength (10-11% ABV). One pint is plenty for me. If you can't buy a kit locally then bring some back from York. It's really easy.

Ah, yes we are allowed to make our own beer and wine at home, and at any given time there vill be something fermenting in 1 out of 5 households in Norway. The quality of the products is normally not very high, often due to the impatience of the brewer.

Prices of liquor are far more out of proportion with the rest of the world than beer and wine, so about every second home has a still making crude, and highly illegal spirits from a fermented sugar, yeast and water mixture. Again the quality is often poor because of the afore mentioned impatience. If you ever had bad, yeast-smelling raki, you'll know what I'm talking about.  

I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.

Tom

[harribobs]

I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.

Tom
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I've had some really good homebrew in the past maybe not up to Mikes 10-11% though

I was wondering if we have anyone in the York area to aim Thomas at the best local ales?

on a different theme i have discovered that Asda of all places does a good selection of belgium beers ( i have a few here tonight that i may well be having a taste of ....  )

[Mike G]

I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.
Tom
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I've had some really good homebrew in the past maybe not up to Mikes 10-11% though
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Don't mistake quality for strength Chris. I just prefer it that way, but I find they are more reliable at higher strength. A microbiologiest could explain why.

For Tom, I buy kits at Wilkinson (Wilko) although there isn't a branch in York. See their website for the nearest. [a href=\"http://www.wilko.co.uk/stores]Wilkinson's stores.[/url] Other than that a specialist home brew/wine making shop, although there aren't many of them these days. Maybe someone else can help.

Re. distillation, I wouldn't go there. You can easily concentrate any methanol or other toxics in the process and this could make you go blind or other nasty things. You would need to monitor the product with expensive equipment (gas chromatograghy) or be very experienced in distillation. You are unlikely to poison yourself with homemade beer or wine if it went wrong; it just wouldn't be palatable.

Mike

[toma2]

For Tom, I buy kits at Wilkinson (Wilko) although there isn't a branch in York. See their website for the nearest. Wilkinson's stores. Other than that a specialist home brew/wine making shop, although there aren't many of them these days. Maybe someone else can help.

Re. distillation, I wouldn't go there. You can easily concentrate any methanol or other toxics in the process and this could make you go blind or other nasty things. You would need to monitor the product with expensive equipment (gas chromatograghy) or be very experienced in distillation. You are unlikely to poison yourself with homemade beer or wine if it went wrong; it just wouldn't be palatable.

Thanks Mike

I appreciate the info. I'll have time to find what I'm looking for.  And don't worry about me getting poisoned, I stay away from the homemade booze. (Unless it is called Raki and served by a Cretan   )

Aah - - I just remembered the the name of my favorite Swiss beer = Rugenbrau. Back in the 80s i spent a few winters skiing in the alps. Relaxing with a pint after skiing was part of the experience. A bit like the bottle(s) of Amstel while waiting to get into one of the two showers at Philipos hostel in Plakias. With a slight difference in temperature though.  

Tom