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Gossip / Re: May be it is time to licence gun ownership?
« on: July 09, 2012, 02:46:25 PM »
Move along nothing new here, Vendetta a way of life,if you want tame holiday in Skegness! I wouldn't have it any other way.
This is from 1999.
 Vendetta Victims: People, A Village -- Crete's `Cycle Of Blood' Survives The Centuries[/size]
By Brian Murphy
The AP
PATIMA, Greece - This is a ghost town in the making.

And here the ghosts have names: the victims of a nearly 5-year-old blood feud that has spilled far beyond this mountain village on Crete. The chain of vengeance - often called a "cycle of blood" - has reminded Greeks that old ways persist in a country struggling to modernize.

"The vendetta is still a way of life to some people. Greece may be becoming more like the rest of Europe on the surface. But mentalities and customs don't change so quickly," said Aristides Tsantiropoulos, a former university professor who researches vendettas on Crete.

On Jan. 5, a gunman took aim from an unfinished building in Athens. The bullets from the Kalashnikov tore into the chest of Yiannis Mouzourakis, 31. Mortally wounded, but clutching the Magnum pistol he always carried, he crawled between two parked cars in a place called Freedom Square. He died a short while later in a hospital.

Vendetta's sixth death

The death of Mouzourakis, who was living under an alias with his two children and pregnant wife, was the sixth attributed to a vendetta that began in May 1994. Mouzourakis' mother was sexually abused and strangled on a road near their village of Patima, about 25 miles southeast of the port of Chania on Crete.

The two attackers, who were jailed, were part of a clan at odds with the Mouzourakis family over land disputes, police said.

Then came a series of killings over the next 13 months. The death toll: one member of the Mouzourakis family and three victims from the rival Dikonimakis clan. The slayings moved from Crete to the Greek mainland and back out to the Aegean island of Mytilene as the feuding families tried to avoid being hunted down, authorities said.

Police investigations of all vendetta slayings are frustrated by the families' and neighbors' usual refusal to cooperate - similar to the vow of silence among Italian mobsters.

A dying village

In Patima, the hub of the current vendetta, the violence is also bleeding life from the village.

Fewer than 10 people remain - a tenth of its population a decade ago. Families involved in the vendetta have scattered. Some moved to other parts of Greece, and there is speculation some children were sent abroad to live with relatives.

An empty tavern stands at the entrance to the village. Most homes are padlocked shut.

"The vendetta killed our village," said an elderly woman. "I look around and want to cry."

The question of why the vendetta culture continues in Crete attracts a range of speculation.

Most theories point to the near-universal devotion to firearms, which are strictly regulated in Greece. Nearly every rural household on Crete has at least one unregistered gun - a custom linked to the many battles of conquest and intercommunal rifts on the island.

Some experts say the long tradition of opposing central authority - dating from centuries of Ottoman rule - feeds the vendetta culture.

Even a former Greek president, Christos Sartzetakis, had fled Crete for northern Greece to escape a vendetta involving relatives.

Police have stepped up patrols around Patima, hoping to intercept one of the main suspects in the blood feud. Airports and ferries also are under surveillance, police said.

"I don't think this is the end," said George Hohalakis, a police officer. "There are too many people out there looking to pay back a killing."

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Plakias / New Ferry Plakias-Gavdos
« on: May 24, 2011, 04:15:15 PM »
that's just it George, it's very probably, virtually the same as it was when I left it.if I remember correctly the boat only ran in the summer. Most  visitors would rather lie on the beach than spend time on a dilapidated boat chugging over to Gavdos.there Were three other people on the boat with me, I don't think they ever had to contend with hordes of tourists arriving. There was nobody else on the beach when I was there, in fact a bit like Plakias when I first arrived. As I said imagine Plakias with only the fishermen and if that's your idea of heaven, then it's a place for you. Go on and do something different this year, you might even enjoy it.

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Plakias / New Ferry Plakias-Gavdos
« on: May 24, 2011, 12:37:44 PM »
Quote from: George
I still want to know what's on Gavdos to warrant a ferry!!!

george...
Gavdos is a particularly quiet and beautiful island, it has a number of beautiful beaches and a dearth of tourists.although it is 30 years or more since I visited the island the lack of any real links to civilisation have probably ensured that it remains a quiet backwater. In the short time I was on the island I only met a handful of tourists (Germans) and the locals were genuinely pleased to see me.

If you ever do make it to the island George, it is unlikely that you will be disappointed. The tranquillity and general ambience to be found on the island are probably what most visitors to Plakias are searching for. Imagine you had borrowed Dr who's tardis and transported yourself back to Plakias before the tourists arrived and you will have some idea of what it's like.

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Plakias / Holiday Report May 2011
« on: May 24, 2011, 12:25:34 PM »
it's a shame that more people don't visit in the early part of the year, its  surprising how beautiful the island is in spring.

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Plakias / Holiday Report May 2011
« on: May 20, 2011, 10:46:39 AM »
wonderful pictures and an informative post,i always liked it at that time of year. i used to camp by the stream,down by the old mill. Bought back a few memories.

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Gossip / what does your cash buy now?
« on: November 22, 2009, 10:17:03 PM »
when i lived in mirthios a salad was 100 drx a beer 80 drx the youth hostel was about 400 drx per night,i could eat in the taverna for less than 500drx with a beer,considering returning in 2013 and wondered what i might need in the way of cash.
suggestions on a postcard please.

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Holiday Companies / Taxi fares
« on: November 22, 2009, 10:10:35 PM »
Quote from: Noopsy 500
Quote from: John R
Quote from: Ploppy
Independant travel gets less and less attractive.

Makes hiring a car even more attractive

John R
...or going by bus. :-

Noopsy
the bus is a superb way to meet people,apart from backpackers that is.the fares were cheap and the service as reliable as anything we have here the last time i caught one.no wonder the taxi boys went mad when i tried to start a service in the town.i cant believe any one pays that sort of cash for a taxi.

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Gossip / cat control
« on: October 12, 2009, 09:18:37 AM »
Quote from: Rowena & Carl
Quote from: Barny
Here we go again!

What do you mean?

I think it was a strange post from Dimitri seeing as in previous posts he claims to know Plakias & Crete very well?! The situation in Plakias regarding cats/dogs has improved alot over the years mainly due to local animal welfare organisations i.e Friends of Rethymno & more. It is still bad but slowly getting better.

I do not understand either if an animal lover surely you would not just watch some one throw kittens down the mountain? I for one would not!

I have to say I also found the other posts odd except from Travellin Gran who clearly shares my love of animals. I agree with her, spend a minute donating a few euro's to a worth while cause in Crete rather than pointless comments on the forum.
 
I have thought for a long time that we are all meant to love Crete & especially Plakias & share info etc so why are there such hostile comments being made so often, life is too short...

Rowena
check out the last time i was in plakia,i was living in the village then and had to take local sentiments in to consideration.note i write from the viewpoint of someone who lived with them in their home,not as a passing tourist.what they say to your face and what is happining are not always the same thing.i repeat i lived and worked on crete mainly in the plakias area for two years,i have a good level of greek and socialised with my hosts and workmates in my spare time,the cafe and hotel owners you mainly meet have a vested interest in being nice to you much as your pub landlord here does.on the animal side i dont recall any locals who had animals other than the ones that were of some use ie chickens donkeys etc.look forward to seeing angelo walking his pug on plakias seafront on my next visit. great puns though a most amusing read.apart from the odd catty remark.

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Gossip / cat control
« on: September 22, 2009, 07:31:19 PM »
interesting article in the paper regards locals on rhodes culling the cat population,poisend by the taverna owners et al once the tourista"s have gone home.noticed this on a couple of othe islands ive visited,thera,ithica and the mainland too.wondering if the cat population on crete has reached epidemic proportions yet?if so are they at it too.the only sighn of cat control i ever witnessed was ethelabia the mother of georgos the one time resident of the bar under mirthios youth hostel,throwing a few kittens over the edge of the car park.please note i like animals and am just as worried as you about their treatment in greece.greeks on the whole do not form the sentimental bond to animals that we do,witness the large amount of dogs left in barrels etc ,with meagre and sporadic rations and rough tratment at the hands of their owners.
please report back on current cat situation.

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Plakias / Worrying Development
« on: September 21, 2009, 05:50:03 PM »
Quote from: George
Quote from: dimitri
mm interesting pics,reminds me of why i never go back,must be horrible there now.
but thats progress i guess.
i like to remember damnoni when only a small track led to it and no hotels existed anywhere there or in plakia,what an end to one of the most charming and pretty places in crete.when i first looked down on plakia from mirthios after a motorcycle ride it seemed like paradise.
Hi dimitri
To the majority of people on this site Plakias still is paradise, and we'll be returning year after year. You don't think a little bit of building work way outside town is going to put the genuine Plakiasites off do you?
Horrible? There won't be many people on this site who'll agree with you!

george...
when i lived in mirthios you saw hardly a soul from the end of the season till easter.in winter the beach was mine alone,the hills were empty save for the odd sheep herd.no devolpment existed on a larger than rent room scale.the only voices you heard were greek,maybe a lone traveller who stayed a night or two in the mirthios youth hostel,but that was it.there was a dirt track into plakia and no more than a small taverna and a couple of rent rooms.the owner of the taverna and his brother a local fisherman built the little hotel down by the sunshine pub and it all began to take off.
i guess compared to magaluff it is quiet,but i prefer to remember her as she was in her youth,beutifull,warm,full of promise and with looks to die for.ahhhhhhhhh.

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Plakias / Worrying Development
« on: September 20, 2009, 04:43:46 PM »
mm interesting pics,reminds me of why i never go back,must be horrible there now.
but thats progress i guess.
i like to remember damnoni when only a small track led to it and no hotels existed anywhere there or in plakia,what an end to one of the most charming and pretty places in crete.when i first looked down on plakia from mirthios after a motorcycle ride it seemed like paradise.

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Plakias / is it safe to come out yet?
« on: June 09, 2009, 10:46:26 PM »
shit man have"nt been brave enough to show my face round here for months since i got flamed for having an opinion,has that scare"y old woman who made up all those nasty things about me gone into a home yet?
yea, well hope you are all in good health and no i dont bear a grudge.mmmmmmm maybe against some people.

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Gossip / cheer up!
« on: November 26, 2008, 06:06:05 PM »
Dear Gran,your rant made enjoyable reading,i dont recall bullying anyone on here.I welcome anyones comments and do not seek to have any person banned for having an opinion.I suggest you have a cup of cocoa and lie down for a bit,as your sense of humour seems to have gone into terminal decline.
In fact, you sound like a bit of a sourpuss.

arguing with someone on the internet is like mudwrestling with a pig,after a while you realize they like it.
have a good one.



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Gossip / cheer up!
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:24:29 AM »
shocking!,probably had no driving licence or insurance either.

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Plakias / Worrying Development
« on: November 21, 2008, 01:37:59 AM »
good to see their still keeping up with the tradition of ripping off total mugs.An old Cretan tradition,as i have pointed out on previous posts.
serves them all right for being so stupid,has no one ever seen what they build houses with on Crete? I built some of the rent rooms in plak and a fair bit of two of the hotels on Damnoni.The things cost nothing to build in terms of materials,the labour was done by a lot of dumb backpackers,now you lot pay silly money to stay there and complain when they build a new development.You are the source of the problem your moaning about,cut out the wailing and give the locals some more money.

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