Sun Beds

[plakias-beach-masseur]

Sorry Mike but it would seem that you are the troll. Dealing with fact 3. Why don't you go elsewhere instead of coming to Plakias? The mothers with the 10 year old little boys live there throughout the year. They can't go elsewhere. You can and perhaps should. You wouldn't be missed.

[Dave&Les]

How long have you been in Plakias?....... us (you lot) have been going to Plakias for at least 25 to 30 years!!! Who do think you are to tell us to go somewhere else.

[Voloudakis]

This has become terribly heated. It is never going to be resolved. Personal attacks are never good. To assume peoples social status or mind set is also wrong. Many different nationalities and backgrounds on the forum. I understand where Geoff is coming from but very undiplomatic choice of phrase. He thinks naturists should be more discrete. The far end in the early days of Plakias was discrete. It may be less so now that the area has more visitor accommodation. Historically ( recent history) Plakias was and is a naturist hotspot. There are books, magazines and websites written about it. However we must recognise that some people that live there still take issue with the fact, Geoff has obviously had conversations with them. I do also think that naturism has been enjoyed by visitors before many of the locals moved there and a lot of the expats that live in Plakias of various nationalities are naturists themselves. There used to only be about eight houses when naturism first arrived in Plakias.
Comments about large ladies may not be helpful. Should have stuck to naked people with legs open. Would still cause upset but at least it does not single a certain group out.
I must say it certainly has woken the forum up from winter slumber.

Sent from my Nexus 7

[draper10]

To the masseur:
It's not really clear whether you object to the naturists' sex (Is it OK for blokes to lie with their legs apart), nationality (are large German ladies allowed), social class ( are large Cambridge educated, honorary consuls allowed), or nudity ( are large German honorary consuls wearing thongs allowed). Is a large naked woman more likely to corrupt a 10 year old Cretan child than a large naked man? Would a German naturist have a less corrupting influence?
Last year the guy renting sunbeds on the naturist bit of Souda beach had his son with him on the 2 or 3 days we were there. Presumably all the naturists there were neither British, female or overweight.
Actually as soon as Mr. Masseur lurched into right wing class warrior mode I lost interest, as I usually do when someone can only justify themselves by slagging off others.

[plakias-beach-masseur]

I have every right to criticise bad behaviour in others. And everyone on  this forum has the right to express an opinion about me. But please remember that Plakias belongs to the Cretans. It is their beach and we should all show respect for their values.

As regards the sun beds, or lack of them, the local department store sells them for 35 Euros. An umbrella big enough for two people can be bought for 10 Euros.

[Colin & Sandra]

We think it's fair to say that the massage trade is going to be very quite this year

[draper10]

Obviously  touched  a chord with the class warrior bit as I got a personal reply! Mr. Masseur doesn't  think I'm funny evidently.

[plakias-beach-masseur]

This was the message I sent to draper10

I thought I would get back to you personally regarding your posting and point one or two home truths out to you. You are trying to be clever but fail. Anyone who had genuinely lost interest wouldn't put a posting up. They would simply move on. And in calling me a right wing class warrior it is you who are slagging me off. This kind of behaviour is typical of the left wing class warrior.

This issue isn't about class per se. It is about the morality and behaviour that accompanies it.

[Tony and Sandra Smith]

I'm sitting here with a large bag of popcorn. This show is turning out be quite good!

[draper10]

Sorry Tony, I've decided to stop playing as the 'Disgusted of Tonbridge Wells' levels have gone off the scale

[Tony and Sandra Smith]

Aw! I  was just going to start to give betting odds on the outcome!
 

[Sunny Jim]

The "far end" topic has been an active one for several years on the forum. It seems to me that there are facts and then opinions.

Fact 1 is that the far end is the reason that a substantial number of the visitors come to Plakias and without them those selling tourist services in the town would suffer immensely.



Fact 3 is that it is quite a small proportion of Plakias' beach so anyone offended can go elsewhere. If you didn't approve of drinking alcohol you wouldn't go into a pub after all.

Fact 1   Its quite possible that more people would visit Plakias if ALL the beach was open to all locals and visitors and especialy families.


Fact 3  Yes the far end is a small area compared to the rest of the beach, but it is also the nicest.  To exclude the family tourist the choice of the nicest part of the beach is both selfish and arrogant beyond belief.

I personaly feel the above description of an overwieght lady is unaceptable, but regardless of her size and age, if she was blantantly displaying herself with wide open legs then i would certainly refer the problem to the local police

[Barny]

Reminds me of the Dimitri thread some time ago?

                   Barny.

[draper10]

This is sort of on topic. As we have a hire car for the full fortnight in June, I've been having a look at the estimable Cap'n Barefoot's site to try to find somewhere else to take my unwelcome body to ( along with its presumably more welcome wallet!). Does anyone have some more current details re Ligres and/or Triopetra than the good Captain? He led us to a beach just outside Frangokastello last year which was lovely. A few more like that wouldn't go amiss.

[Voloudakis]

Between Agia Fotini and Ligres are a series of beautiful and Naturist friendly stretches of sand/ small pebble. Then Ligres to Triopetra is nearly all good except in front of the Taverna and the beach bar. Beyond triopetra are some other excellent spots. Agios Pavlos is naturist friendly. Going west Rodakino and the beaches beyond are all excellent and Naturist friendly. Sweetwater and beyond Loutro at Marmara are also good. Massive choice.
Check this webpage for more info on Rodakino http://www.angelfire.com/super2/greece/rodakino.html
Photos of Ligres and Triopetra,.
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Agios Pavlos beyond Triopetra.
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Agia Fotini Taverna and nearby.
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