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PlakChat / Mythos
« on: September 04, 2011, 08:39:08 PM »
I used to agree with you George. When in a pub I'll always go for a real ale but most of my drinking is done at home and a Stella or Peroni goes down a treat so I'm sure a Mythos would hit the spot as well.

Plakias / Holiday Report May 2011
« on: June 12, 2011, 09:45:14 PM »
Joining the thread a bit late as i've not visited the site for a while (addicted to facebook). Fantastic photos, Bruce - we've only ever visited in September so have missed out on all the colour.

Holiday Companies / 2011 price hike
« on: February 01, 2011, 10:23:50 PM »
Wow - just caught up on lots of posts (I've been neglecting the site for a while). Have been trying to plan a long haul holidy for May but we're no closer to making a decision. I think I might sneak a Plakias option into the mix but looks like booking independently might be the best option. A few years back we managed to lose 13 hours when Olympic changed the flights in 2 stages. Hope Olympic don't have problems - some of their late deals have been very good in the past.

Where to stay / Irida studios
« on: December 12, 2010, 08:36:33 AM »
Groan! I hope you get a good joke book in your stocking this Christmas, Barney. If one's not on your Christmas list ... add it!

Gossip / christmas
« on: December 12, 2010, 08:28:06 AM »
Merry Christmas - one and all.

Where to stay / Irida studios
« on: October 22, 2010, 09:32:30 PM »
Quote from: George
I totally agree with you guys as well, but the question I'm asking is why did you return for a 'second' visit? What is so different about Plakias, that made you return that 'second' time, instead of going somewhere else like normal people would.


Ok - first time in Crete we were staying in Rethymnon and, on recommendation, hired a car and drove down to Plakias intending to see a bit of the south coast. something in the air? well maybe: we decided to stay for an hour on the beach (first time 'far end'). Eventually had to drag ourselves away before it got dark. At that time, had no inkling the great walking to be had in the area but knew by the end of the day where next years' holiday would be. At the end of the our first 2 week holiday in Plakias (and all subsequent hols in Plakias) we leave thinking there's yet more to discover next time. However .... Makrigyalos will definitely be checked out before we book for next year.

Where to stay / Irida studios
« on: October 21, 2010, 12:34:18 PM »
For us, there are several reasons why we yearn to return to Plakias again and again. I used to think that familiarity was what gives us the 'coming home' feeling that we get each time we return but I don't think changes in bar ownership, no doughnuts on the beach etc would make us feel any less at home. The approach to Plakias is the first thing that comes to mind: exiting either of the gorges above Plakias marks a transition from the hustle and bustle of everyday life or, more immediately, the airport. Next, we rarely have plans on what we want to do while on holiday but we know that Plakias has pretty much all we might want: decent bars and restaurants; hills and villages to explore; several beaches within walking distance and plenty of other places to explore by car. The one thing I'd like though, is a better bus service so that wider exploration wouldn't require hiring a car. So far, our 6 holidays have each been very different but not been disappointed so far.

Where to stay / Irida studios
« on: October 16, 2010, 11:14:37 PM »
Interesting info Mike. In another topic I summarised our holiday in Perissa, Santorini. Prices there are quite variable - Large Mythos varied from 2 to 4. 1/2 litre of wine in restaurants from 3.5 to 4. No charge late in the season for bars' sunbeds though with several places not even encouraging you to buy a drink. We were there from 28 Sept. to 12 Oct. and had excellent weather other than 2 cool days. I'd assumed that Plakias would have had similar weather as it's 80 miles south of Santorini. I expect we'll be back to Plakias next September. We have booked independently recent years but if there were some great late deals this year so we may well hold off to see what's on offer from Olympic.

Where to go / Santorini
« on: October 16, 2010, 10:00:56 AM »
Gemma, The prices in Fira and Oia are definitely higher than in Plakias as both places are geared up for the visiting cruise ships and day trips. So, lovely as they are, we'd not stay there - Perissa is cheaper and Fira is only a 35 to 40min. bus ride away.

Where to go / Santorini
« on: October 14, 2010, 05:55:22 AM »
My Facebook comment said it all ...
Santorini airport and procedures were how you'd like all airports to be - quick check in, then go outside and have a drink in a local cafe, then wait for the Thomson rep to pop over and say it's time to board - very civilised  

So - just a bit different to Heraklion  
Of course - this was just about the last day of their season so it's bound to be busier in the summer.

Link to Facebook photos for anyone interested.;l=fefc3514ff

Where to go / Santorini
« on: October 12, 2010, 09:16:32 PM »
Just back from 2 weeks in Santorini - our first time, but possibly not our last. We didn't know what to expect but hoped to have some of the things we love about Plakias - laid back; friendly; plenty of good walks. We went for the last two weeks of their season, staying in Perissa. It was quiet, which was good (we could imagine it would feel crowded in peak season), but over half the restaurants had closed for our second week - many people go back to the mainland for the winter nonths. Although Santorini has some expensive places to stay for those wanting romantic views over the caldera or of the sunsets, there were also plenty of cheaper places to stay. Overall, we thought it was less developed than Crete, Perissa restaurant prices were similar to Plakias. Bar prices varied considerably: 3 to 4 for a 500ml Mythos in the bars by the beach but only 2 away from the beach. Plenty of walks to keep us happy with clearly marked tracks which was useful as we didn't see a decent map in any of the shops. The hourly bus service to the main town of Fira was excellent (even more frequent in summer). As the island is so small, you could run out of new places to explore when returning but fine for a place to chill out. For those interested in ancient history, the ruins at Thira were very interesting as was the pre-history museum in Fira. The archeological site of Akrotiri is closed until June 2011. Beaches are not a patch on some of the beaches in Crete and the water gets deep quite quickly, so not ideal for children. We did find a naturist end of one beach but can't say how acceptable it would be in summer when the beaches are much busier.

Plakias / Timeos Stavros
« on: September 11, 2010, 08:39:59 PM »
Quote from: John R
We actually walked the other way round, first going through the olive groves towards Damoni (where we lunched and then made back to the Kalypso track). The track from Kalypso complex back to Plakias bay hotel vicinity took us (I think) higher that the cave entrances. I have to confess I've always missed these - must see them soon. The track was actually on the top of the cliff face. There may be other lower tracks but we followed a clearly defined track all the way. The most difficult decision being where to exit from the side of the driveway to Kalypso. An excellent not very strenuous walk with terrific views

John R
You really should do the walk to the tunnels, John (and we should walk to the Kalypso sometime).
BTW - For anypne into Geo-caching, there's one on the way to the tunnels (detouring slightly to the gun emplacement)

Plakias / Timeos Stavros
« on: September 09, 2010, 11:03:33 PM »
Quote from: Gemma1
Quote from: Graham_and_Karen
Mike, my memory's not so good and we aren't the best at finding or keeping to paths but I do remember that we started at the path behind the Plakias Bay hotel that gets you to the top of the cliff, then walked round the headland some way. There were two opportunities to climb. I think walking further round got to the easier route where, looking up you could see a saddle. No path as such but easy enough climbing to the top of the saddle, then left following the ridge to the peak.

Was this a difficult walk and can you remember roughly how long it took you? I'm looking for some new walks to do when we go back next year but in the Lance Chiltern book I've got the walk starts from Lefkoyia. I don't want anything too strenuous but wouldn't mind giving this a go if it's not too difficult.

Are there any other walking books on the area around Plakias apart from Lance Chiltern's?

Gemma -Kaka Mouri is certainly not as strenuous as Timeos Stavros and I'd think you'd want to start from Plakias, not Lefkoyia. Even if you don't get to the top, it's still worth following the path round the headland at the level of the top of the cliff. You can get good views of the Kalypso hotel. As an alternative to LC's book, have a look at Peter Thomson's walks at:
From there you'll find lots of walks listed although there's a limited number of circular walks. Following the irrigation channel is very pleasant.

Plakias / Timeos Stavros
« on: September 05, 2010, 09:20:10 PM »
Mike, my memory's not so good and we aren't the best at finding or keeping to paths but I do remember that we started at the path behind the Plakias Bay hotel that gets you to the top of the cliff, then walked round the headland some way. There were two opportunities to climb. I think walking further round got to the easier route where, looking up you could see a saddle. No path as such but easy enough climbing to the top of the saddle, then left following the ridge to the peak.

Plakias / Timeos Stavros
« on: September 03, 2010, 05:54:57 PM »
Quote from: Barny
Oh no, there's not another way up it? Is it easier than the zig zag way? Not that i will climb it again!

Nothing easier than the zig-zag path Barny (not sure whether that's good news for you or not  )
If you don't fancy Timeos Stavros again, how about Kaka Mouri (above the cliff at the far end). Great views of the bay.

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