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Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: returner on January 17, 2006, 07:29:41 PM
Here we go... Raise a glass to this moment. The beginning of the dismantling.
These structures will form the new beach activity centre just in front of where Meltemi once stood. Asked quietly where the posters which once adorned the walls were heading. Advised equally quietly there was a waiting list as long as Meltemi had been open for Bob Marley et al...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: sheryl on January 17, 2006, 11:05:35 PM
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Here we go... Raise a glass to this moment. The beginning of the dismantling.
These structures will form the new beach activity centre just in front of where Meltemi once stood. Asked quietly where the posters which once adorned the walls were heading. Advised equally quietly there was a waiting list as long as Meltemi had been open for Bob Marley et al...
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GUTTED!  :'(
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: ostraco on January 17, 2006, 11:56:27 PM
 So SO [span style=\'font-size:21pt;line-height:100%\']SAD![/span]
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on January 18, 2006, 08:33:13 AM
Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

george g...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on January 18, 2006, 08:34:05 AM
Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

george g...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on January 18, 2006, 08:41:54 AM
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These structures will form the new beach activity centre just in front of where Meltemi once stood.
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We never frequented the Meltemi so we're not affected by its closure but ... a 'Beach Activity Centre' is very worrying
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on January 18, 2006, 08:43:29 AM
Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

george g...

sorry!! don't know how these two happened, probably my server being silly
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: beachcombers on January 18, 2006, 08:57:27 AM
Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

George,
As you keep on repeating your above post:

How many t-shirts do you have, did you buy the whole lot?  
Or do you need the money for the increased prices.........?  
Leen.  

PS
What is a beach activity centre?
I live close to a beach, but we donot have other activities then "taverna's" on the beach.
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on January 18, 2006, 09:40:11 AM
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Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

George,
As you keep on repeating your above post:

How many t-shirts do you have, did you buy the whole lot?   
Or do you need the money for the increased prices.........?   
Leen.   

PS
What is a beach activity centre?
I live close to a beach, but we donot have other activities then "taverna's" on the beach.
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Probably hit the button more than once as you do!  

I also want to know what a 'beach activity centre' is. I do hope as numerous other do that it's not floating bananas and jet skis  

Does anyone know what's planned??

george g...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: shinaria on January 18, 2006, 10:00:24 AM
If you don't like what's going on there you should avoid everything branded with "alianthos" ! Hotels, car rent, and the train...
My bid for the shirt: 5£ [Unfortunately I sold our microbus with the old meltemi sticker last year... has anybody one in store?
Would you be so kind to post a photo of the meltemi in a little bit larger version???

alianthos sucks...

greeceings
shinaria
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Ali & Dave on January 18, 2006, 10:12:23 AM
Don't worry about the new beach activities.  Not bananas and jetskis. only sailboats and it's an independent person and not part of alianthos. Maybe returner (who are you?) can you fuller and better details than I can.

Ali
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on January 18, 2006, 11:16:31 AM
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Don't worry about the new beach activities.  Not bananas and jetskis. only sailboats and it's an independent person and not part of alianthos. Maybe returner (who are you?) can you fuller and better details than I can.

Ali
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Thanks Ali, I'll sleep better tonight!

george g...  
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: shinaria on January 18, 2006, 11:35:03 AM
Is this not a part of the new alianthos complex... Wonder how many of the  holiday-skippers will make their trip to libya ... As I have been reported there must  be strong winds sometimes...

Dance this mess around
shinaria
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on January 18, 2006, 12:18:41 PM
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Don't worry about the new beach activities.  Not bananas and jetskis. only sailboats and it's an independent person and not part of alianthos. Maybe returner (who are you?) can you fuller and better details than I can.

Ali
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Thanks Ali, I'll sleep better tonight!

george g...  
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Thanks for the info Ali - I would say only slightly comforting - it may start with sailboats (dinghies or windsurfer/sailboard?) but oculd lead to other things. If windsurfers are hired out, this will probably create a 'no-go' area for bathers at that part of the beach as the boards are controlled well by the majority of people who hire them (me included when I had a go years ago).
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: toma2 on January 18, 2006, 12:48:02 PM
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Don't worry about the new beach activities.  Not bananas and jetskis. only sailboats and it's an independent person and not part of alianthos. Maybe returner (who are you?) can you fuller and better details than I can.

Ali
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Thanks Ali, I'll sleep better tonight!

george g...  
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Thanks for the info Ali - I would say only slightly comforting - it may start with sailboats (dinghies or windsurfer/sailboard?) but oculd lead to other things. If windsurfers are hired out, this will probably create a 'no-go' area for bathers at that part of the beach as the boards are controlled well by the majority of people who hire them (me included when I had a go years ago).
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that Philipos (from the Meltemi) had a windsurf rental thing back in the 80s. And that he gave it up in part because of too many rescue missions in the direction of Libiya. Sailboats will have the same problem      so if it turns out to be a problem then maybe it'll be a shortlived one
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: returner on January 18, 2006, 09:34:31 PM
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Is it worth putting my brand new, unworn Meltemi T-shirt on ebay or should I wait awhile??

George,
As you keep on repeating your above post:

How many t-shirts do you have, did you buy the whole lot?   
Or do you need the money for the increased prices.........?   
Leen.   

PS
What is a beach activity centre?
I live close to a beach, but we donot have other activities then "taverna's" on the beach.
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Probably hit the button more than once as you do!  

I also want to know what a 'beach activity centre' is. I do hope as numerous other do that it's not floating bananas and jet skis  

Does anyone know what's planned??

george g...
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Heres the photo again hopefully a better size. I am a novice to all of this. This is 1% of the original pixel size
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: sheryl on January 18, 2006, 11:16:27 PM
now i'm totally confused - the alianthos definetley own the land.  phillipos tried to buy it off them when he heard there plans??? - roll on the holiday season and we'll can see exactly whats going on, i think everyone from may til october will have something new to report....just get the feeling things wont be standing still for quite a few years
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: compage on January 19, 2006, 01:48:20 PM
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If you don't like what's going on there you should avoid everything branded with "alianthos" ! Hotels, car rent, and the train...
My bid for the shirt: 5£ [Unfortunately I sold our microbus with the old meltemi sticker last year... has anybody one in store?
Would you be so kind to post a photo of the meltemi in a little bit larger version???

alianthos sucks...

greeceings
shinaria
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The full-size original of this picture is about 3 Mb. in its native format.
If your inbox can cope with it, it would be better if returner emailed it to you.
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Ali & Dave on January 21, 2006, 12:34:06 PM
Alianthos are building a hotel on the Meltemi site.  The timbers from outside Meltemi are being used to build the small hut for the beach activities which has no connection to Alianthos.

Ali
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: DOTTY on January 22, 2006, 01:19:51 PM
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Alianthos are building a hotel on the Meltemi site.  The timbers from outside Meltemi are being used to build the small hut for the beach activities which has no connection to Alianthos.

Ali
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As much as we (tourists) do not want these things to happen    thank you for keeping us informed Ali.

Dotty
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Santa on January 31, 2006, 08:30:12 AM
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Alianthos are building a hotel on the Meltemi site.  The timbers from outside Meltemi are being used to build the small hut for the beach activities which has no connection to Alianthos.

Ali
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As much as we (tourists) do not want these things to happen    thank you for keeping us informed Ali.

Dotty
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Santa
Allright- everyone just relax, take a deap breath and sip an ouzo- life goes on.
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: shinaria on February 07, 2006, 09:14:14 AM
Thank you very much, Santa! I knew there must be something wrong with my brain. I´ll hence to the supermarket, buy me a collection of alcoholic drinks and the world will be like paradise...
always look on the bright side of life
shinaria
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on February 07, 2006, 09:33:03 AM
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Thank you very much, Santa! I knew there must be something wrong with my brain. I´ll hence to the supermarket, buy me a collection of alcoholic drinks and the world will be like paradise...
always look on the bright side of life
shinaria
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Good idea, great minds think alike!  
george g...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Santa on February 08, 2006, 07:29:19 AM
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Thank you very much, Santa! I knew there must be something wrong with my brain. I´ll hence to the supermarket, buy me a collection of alcoholic drinks and the world will be like paradise...
always look on the bright side of life
shinaria
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Good idea, great minds think alike!  
george g...
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You see- things look different when you look at them through the bottom of the glass- I do not understand the hysteria over a potential development, when Meltemi was just one step above a shack in terms of Architecture.
Santa
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on February 08, 2006, 09:09:04 AM
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You see- things look different when you look at them through the bottom of the glass- I do not understand the hysteria over a potential development, when Meltemi was just one step above a shack in terms of Architecture.
Santa
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Personally, I would like Plakias to stay as quiet as possible. The Meltemi was great for us - completely quiet other than when we were safely tucked up in bed! (From other posts it sounds like it was fairly quiet even then). Any new development, if it is to be successful, will make the bay busier.
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: sheryl on February 08, 2006, 10:01:16 PM
for me the meltemi was a place to meet up with my greek mates once they finished work - it wasn't some big flashy night club, not to busy or noisey and its safe...it just seemed to fit in with the scenery.  i guess it depends on what kind of conections and memories you have with the place - i'm still guttted - i've got alot of mates and even more memories....its the end of an era
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on February 09, 2006, 08:14:58 AM
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for me the meltemi was a place to meet up with my greek mates once they finished work - it wasn't some big flashy night club, not to busy or noisey and its safe...it just seemed to fit in with the scenery.  i guess it depends on what kind of conections and memories you have with the place - i'm still guttted - i've got alot of mates and even more memories....its the end of an era
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One day, I hope we will make some local connections and have stronger ties with Plakias (we were saddened that Ariadne was closed last Sept.). For now, it is just a place for a 2 week, no stress break. Familiarity of surroundings and people is a part of Plakias's appeal so it won't be the same without the Meltemi even though we never went in there.
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: George on February 09, 2006, 08:37:52 AM
'Familiarity of surroundings and people is a part of Plakias's appeal so it won't be the same without the Meltemi even though we never went in there.'

I dropped in there a long time ago for a quick beer one afternoon, that was my only visit.
Even when I stayed at the 'Galini Beach', (now the Alianthos annexe on the corner), the only noise was a very quiet bass note, which helped me get off to kip.
It will be sad to see a landmark missing, but as has been said, time doesn't stand still and we must accept changes that the Locals want. We as 'visitors' (as opposed to tourists), do not really have the right to critisise their decisions, although we all have our opinions.
I personally wish the new venture good luck!

george g...
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: returner on February 09, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
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'Familiarity of surroundings and people is a part of Plakias's appeal so it won't be the same without the Meltemi even though we never went in there.'

I dropped in there a long time ago for a quick beer one afternoon, that was my only visit.
Even when I stayed at the 'Galini Beach', (now the Alianthos annexe on the corner), the only noise was a very quiet bass note, which helped me get off to kip.
It will be sad to see a landmark missing, but as has been said, time doesn't stand still and we must accept changes that the Locals want. We as 'visitors' (as opposed to tourists), do not really have the right to critisise their decisions, although we all have our opinions.
I personally wish the new venture good luck!

george g...
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Manolis beach bar is a funky venue for the more relaxed evening sessions. For the more fit amongst us im sure the beach would offer itself up for an occassional dance. At the end of Meltemis existence I had given up as age caught up and Icouldnt get into the music, liked the old Meltemi 80s stuff better. Beach bar plays  great music, (remember Manolis used to be in Meltemi and also ran Hexagon  nightclub years ago.)  Shelter now also just in case the wind comes up.
Ref Meltemi it must have been one of the best dancing shack in the world. Should have taken home a piece of the bar, floor or wall to hold up to my ear like a sea shell when I get nostalgic. What memories. (if only walls could talk!)
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: shinaria on February 09, 2006, 10:44:09 AM
We had the idea of a night in the meltemi in about 13 years when our children are old enough to join the party [or to stay at home  ] Long time ago it was a great place to meet up with friends, to shake our bones on the dancefloor and have a few drinks... And the best thing after this was to jump out of the clothes right into the sea for a night swimming under a full moon lightened sky.
 
As a visitor and tourist we might have to be just consumers. But due to our deep respect and interest for the cretan culture, the beauty of the land and the gratitude for being welcomed with a smile [especially in the awareness of the despicable crimes done during WWII by german occupants] it hurts to see what we do to the land. Probably nobody will die when an old rotten dancehall is replaced by a new hotel [I might have been crying the day they built the club and calling it a ruin for the lovely and quiet plakias...  ] It's still a difference between building a multibillion Project like the "Timbaki-Harbour" with deepest impacts to the whole area or if someone offers banana-riding on the plakias beach. But the causes are the same: we get what we want. Or better: we want what we're told  to want.
And the way to protect things from being wasted for short-distance profits of the few big players in the tourist-industry is to spread the welfare of tourism amongst the many small family-driven enterprises from the donut-man to the taverna in the smaller villages. And to tell them that you love it the way it is!


Shinaria
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: beachcombers on February 09, 2006, 11:27:17 AM
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We had the idea of a night in the meltemi in about 13 years when our children are old enough to join the party [or to stay at home  ] Long time ago it was a great place to meet up with friends, to shake our bones on the dancefloor and have a few drinks... And the best thing after this was to jump out of the clothes right into the sea for a night swimming under a full moon lightened sky.
 
As a visitor and tourist we might have to be just consumers. But due to our deep respect and interest for the cretan culture, the beauty of the land and the gratitude for being welcomed with a smile [especially in the awareness of the despicable crimes done during WWII by german occupants] it hurts to see what we do to the land. Probably nobody will die when an old rotten dancehall is replaced by a new hotel [I might have been crying the day they built the club and calling it a ruin for the lovely and quiet plakias...  ] It's still a difference between building a multibillion Project like the "Timbaki-Harbour" with deepest impacts to the whole area or if someone offers banana-riding on the plakias beach. But the causes are the same: we get what we want. Or better: we want what we're told  to want.
And the way to protect things from being wasted for short-distance profits of the few big players in the tourist-industry is to spread the welfare of tourism amongst the many small family-driven enterprises from the donut-man to the taverna in the smaller villages. And to tell them that you love it the way it is!


Shinaria
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Found following poem from Jeff Winchell (forum member from the USA):

[a href=\"http://winchell.org/Hope.htm]http://winchell.org/Hope.htm[/url]

It tells it all?

Leen
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: compage on February 09, 2006, 11:39:33 AM
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... And the way to protect things from being wasted for short-distance profits of the few big players in the tourist-industry is to spread the welfare of tourism amongst the many small family-driven enterprises from the donut-man to the taverna in the smaller villages. And to tell them that you love it the way it is!

Shinaria
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Hear hear!
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: shinaria on February 09, 2006, 12:24:01 PM
Yours sincerely

hobby-preacher  
Shinaria
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Mike G on February 09, 2006, 01:40:37 PM
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One day, I hope we will make some local connections and have stronger ties with Plakias (we were saddened that Ariadne was closed last Sept.).

I agree Ariadne used to be good, but we were blatantly overcharged there last May. See here. (http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?act=faq&article=12) Once a taverna starts doing this its days are numbered as people aren't fools. Fortunately we then found Mousses.

Mike
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Santa on February 10, 2006, 12:17:19 PM
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We had the idea of a night in the meltemi in about 13 years when our children are old enough to join the party [or to stay at home  ] Long time ago it was a great place to meet up with friends, to shake our bones on the dancefloor and have a few drinks... And the best thing after this was to jump out of the clothes right into the sea for a night swimming under a full moon lightened sky.
 
As a visitor and tourist we might have to be just consumers. But due to our deep respect and interest for the cretan culture, the beauty of the land and the gratitude for being welcomed with a smile [especially in the awareness of the despicable crimes done during WWII by german occupants] it hurts to see what we do to the land. Probably nobody will die when an old rotten dancehall is replaced by a new hotel [I might have been crying the day they built the club and calling it a ruin for the lovely and quiet plakias...  ] It's still a difference between building a multibillion Project like the "Timbaki-Harbour" with deepest impacts to the whole area or if someone offers banana-riding on the plakias beach. But the causes are the same: we get what we want. Or better: we want what we're told  to want.
And the way to protect things from being wasted for short-distance profits of the few big players in the tourist-industry is to spread the welfare of tourism amongst the many small family-driven enterprises from the donut-man to the taverna in the smaller villages. And to tell them that you love it the way it is!


Shinaria
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Found following poem from Jeff Winchell (forum member from the USA):

[a href=\"http://winchell.org/Hope.htm]http://winchell.org/Hope.htm[/url]

It tells it all?

Leen
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Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Santa on February 10, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
Just one question- do the locals not have a right to sell some property and make a buck after years of scratching out a living? or are we being selfish?
Santa
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: sheryl on February 12, 2006, 03:30:06 PM
santa - the meltemi hasn't been sold.  the land it was built on belonged to the alianthos hotel.  and after 22years they have decided they wanted there land back and have took away someone elses bussiness and jobs by doing so - its alot more complicated than what it seems, they have been to court about it.....if bussiness was great and the alianthos needed another hotel you could kinda understand it - but they cant fill the hotel they've already got
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Santa on February 13, 2006, 03:09:37 PM
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santa - the meltemi hasn't been sold.  the land it was built on belonged to the alianthos hotel.  and after 22years they have decided they wanted there land back and have took away someone elses bussiness and jobs by doing so - its alot more complicated than what it seems, they have been to court about it.....if bussiness was great and the alianthos needed another hotel you could kinda understand it - but they cant fill the hotel they've already got
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Sheryl- OK you win -feel better? I am going to enjoy an ouzo now .
Santa
Title: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Jeff Winchell on November 21, 2006, 09:33:54 PM
Quote from: beachcombers
Found following poem from Jeff Winchell (forum member from the USA):

[url]http://winchell.org/Hope.htm[/url] ([url]http://winchell.org/Hope.htm[/url])

It tells it all?

Leen


It's interesting that I randomly happened upon this. I did have other plans tonight besides ego surfing, but then I guess you know about me and plans.  

Well, back to learning German, or should I say, hoping to learn German (and hoping to add Greek to that list someday).
Title: Re: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: Voloudakis on June 24, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
I know this is a Graveyard thread but just wanted to share a Photo from the 1980's and as it is now.
(http://i.imgur.com/P9CkYRo.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/TrQqc3v.jpg)
Title: Re: End of an era Dismantling of Meltemi
Post by: JackieatUrbanAgenda on June 25, 2013, 09:52:05 AM
Really sad.....I had some great evenings (nights ?) there in the late 80s when it was one of the only music bars in the area but it was also sad to see it there in ruins.

I suspect the 'activities centre' will be closely limited in what it can do. I remember a discussion with a former mayor about a ban on things like jetskis and watched a couple of years ago when a visitor to the village was asked to remove his jetski as it had left a very smelly and horrible-to swim through film of fuel over the whole bay. OK, so kite surfers (there was one last year) and windsurfers (we've watched several over the years and yes, there was a wind surfing school) need space that could compete with swimmers but they often go further out and, at least, they are eco-friendly and quiet. I think there are also limits on what can be built on that are...something to do with archaeological remains...although I don't think its anything to do with the Lamon Palace as that's further up the hill.

I will be playing some Bob Marley and sinking a raki in memory of the Meltemi bar later on......