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Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on May 18, 2005, 07:50:19 AM
Hi,

I will visit to Plakias in July.
I prefer nudist beaches.
Please recommend to me some nice beaches.
Thanks Joe
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on May 18, 2005, 08:12:11 AM
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Hi,

I will visit to Plakias in July.
I prefer nudist beaches.
Please recommend to me some nice beaches.
Thanks Joe
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Hi Joe,
You don't need to look much further than the far end of the beach at Plakias. Good sand and gently sloping into the water. Sunbeds, if you want them and plenty of space. Futher to the east (30 mins walk), just beyond Damnoni, you have a small beach, usually referred to as Micro Amoudi. This is a sun trap (too hot for us other than towards the end of the day), sheltered from the wind. The water gets deep very quickly and the waves are often higher than at Plakias - great fun!
Have a great time.

Graham
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on May 18, 2005, 10:34:20 AM
Hi Graham,

Thanks your kind reply.
It's good info because I will stay in Paligremnos studio near that part of  the beach.

Joe
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Susan K on May 18, 2005, 02:02:04 PM
Joe

There is also Souda Beach which is a couple of kilometres to the west of Plakias. It is pebbly but quieter than Plakias. There are a couple of excellent taverna's for lunch or a cold drink, worth at least one visit. If you don't have a car it will take about 30 mins to walk or you can take a taxi and they will arrange to pick you up for the return journey.

Susan
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on May 18, 2005, 02:10:44 PM
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Joe

There is also Souda Beach which is a couple of kilometres to the west of Plakias. It is pebbly but quieter than Plakias. There are a couple of excellent taverna's for lunch or a cold drink, worth at least one visit. If you don't have a car it will take about 30 mins to walk or you can take a taxi and they will arrange to pick you up for the return journey.

Susan
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Many thanks Susan,
I plan to rent car and I will visit there and maybe some other places.

Joe
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Pritch on May 19, 2005, 05:09:09 PM
Can thoroughly recommend 'Taverna Galini' at Souda - the one at the end.
Many a happy hour and good lunch has been spent there.
Enjoy
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on May 19, 2005, 06:10:31 PM
Thanks Spritch,

I will taste.
I started to count how many days more I have to sleep...

Joe
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Jeff Winchell on May 20, 2005, 06:22:50 PM
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Hi,

I will visit to Plakias in July.
I prefer nudist beaches.
Please recommend to me some nice beaches.
Thanks Joe
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The two beaches just east of Damnoni beach are nudist. The eastmost of those two, One Rock Beach, is a favorite of those of us at Youth Hostel Plakias. It is small, secluded/sheltered, has some fun places to jump off the rocks, or swim through a tunnel to the first nudist beach.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on May 21, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
Thanks Jeff,

I like that kind of beaches with special guest. Im sure i will go there.
I like your pics in your site.
Joe
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Wil on May 21, 2005, 12:37:43 PM
We like to sunbath and swim naked too ,but we prefer to do that with no other people around.
You think there is a possibility for that ? ( June 3-June 17)
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: compage on May 23, 2005, 09:29:19 AM
If you get there early enough.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Pusscat100 on May 23, 2005, 12:38:27 PM
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: fraoula on May 23, 2005, 06:23:18 PM
3.30AM should do it.....
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Greecemad on May 23, 2005, 07:01:33 PM
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We like to sunbath and swim naked too ,but we prefer to do that with no other people around.
You think there is a possibility for that ? ( June 3-June 17)
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I didn't reply earlier as I couldn't think of anywhere near to Plakias, so I was waiting to see what others came up with. The answer is, joking aside, nothing.

The nearest place to Plakias that I can think of is Aghios Pavlos which is about 20km east of Plakias as the crow flies - I'm not sure how far by road. You will need a car to get to it. As you come down to the beach at Aghios Pavlos, walk over the headland to the right (west) and climb down onto the beach. There are a couple of small bays populated by nudists, but then if you go to the right, the sand stretches for at least a couple of kilometeres under some cliffs and is almost completely deserted.

Greecemad
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: fraoula on May 23, 2005, 07:11:59 PM
Who's joking?  
 Nightswimming, desrves a quiet night....







 
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: paleo on May 24, 2005, 09:46:47 AM
we used to visit Ag Pav regularly but a couple of years ago there was a rock fall which reduced one of the nudist spots to a few square yards - we *have* been back since but in ech case the Ag Pav yogis have (not unreasonably) been using it but mainly tex not nudist and its all a bit squashed
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: paleo on May 24, 2005, 10:53:19 PM
It *is* possible to have the far end to yourself sometimes

http://www.white-box.co.uk/xirokorio/sunsetatthefarend.htm (http://www.white-box.co.uk/xirokorio/sunsetatthefarend.htm)
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Mike G on May 25, 2005, 02:33:03 PM
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Joe

There is also Souda Beach which is a couple of kilometres to the west of Plakias. It is pebbly but quieter than Plakias. There are a couple of excellent taverna's for lunch or a cold drink, worth at least one visit. If you don't have a car it will take about 30 mins to walk or you can take a taxi and they will arrange to pick you up for the return journey.

Susan
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On May 11, virtually everyone on Souda Bay beach was clothed.

Mike
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: bryhy on May 27, 2005, 04:42:14 PM
With all this talk about nude beaches I thought I might embarass the wife with a picture of her naked. She is under the blue umbrella
Brian
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 01, 2005, 11:12:12 AM
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Hi Graham,

Thanks your kind reply.
It's good info because I will stay in Paligremnos studio near that part of  the beach.

Joe
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I had my lunch at the paligremnos yesterday, you'll love it there, maybe a little quiet in the evenings but you can walk into town in 10 or so minutes
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 01, 2005, 12:02:47 PM
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On May 11, virtually everyone on Souda Bay beach was clothed.

Mike
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i noticed the same last sunday (30/5/05)

also Shinaria was fully textile as well
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on June 01, 2005, 04:07:13 PM
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Hi Graham,

Thanks your kind reply.
It's good info because I will stay in Paligremnos studio near that part of  the beach.

Joe
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I had my lunch at the paligremnos yesterday, you'll love it there, maybe a little quiet in the evenings but you can walk into town in 10 or so minutes
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Thank's your info.
You are so lucky now because already at Plakias.
I tried to reserv an accomodation near the beach but not so loud at evening and night.
A nudist beach is extra for me.
I hope very soon i will enjoy that place too.
 
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 01, 2005, 04:18:28 PM
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You are so lucky now because already at Plakias.

not so lucky     i flew home from Plakias yesterday as well

you will like the Paligremnos, i'm sure ( and they are having live music on thursday nights as well)
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Noopsy on June 03, 2005, 10:55:04 PM
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On May 11, virtually everyone on Souda Bay beach was clothed.

Mike
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i noticed the same last sunday (30/5/05)

also Shinaria was fully textile as well
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Oh, dear.  And I was planning to visit Souda this year.  Looks like I'll have to do my "clothes-optional" exploration in an easterly direction.
 
Noopsy
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Mike G on June 04, 2005, 09:57:25 AM
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Oh, dear.  And I was planning to visit Souda this year.  Looks like I'll have to do my "clothes-optional" exploration in an easterly direction.
 
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It isn't looking good but I wouldn't entirely give up. When I was there last month it was very sparsely populated. Just a couple of people at the east end were "au naturel". But it only takes a few to set a trend that will discourage those not of that persuasion.

10 years ago it was mainly naturist, but the tarmacing of the road from Plakias must have meant more people using Souda.

However, the east end of Plakias beach is still truly clothes optional, with neither the clothed nor the unclothed being bothered by the others.

Ditto the two coves just east of Damnoni where it looked as if swimming costumes were as rare as rocking horse droppings.

Mike
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 04, 2005, 10:32:57 PM
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Ditto the two coves just east of Damnoni where it looked as if swimming costumes were as rare as rocking horse droppings.

Mike
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indeed it was looking very nice over there, although i wouldn't fancy it in high summer

we managed a few hours in the dunes at the far end, we actaully have the best bit of beach, thats a change
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 05, 2005, 07:54:56 AM
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Ditto the two coves just east of Damnoni where it looked as if swimming costumes were as rare as rocking horse droppings.

Mike
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indeed it was looking very nice over there, although i wouldn't fancy it in high summer

we managed a few hours in the dunes at the far end, we actaully have the best bit of beach, thats a change
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Until now, I've referred to the larger of these two beaches in harribob's last post as Micro Amoudibut I see that on the website for the Manolia apartments it's called Amoudaki. Does anyone know whether this is its correct name?
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Post by: harribobs on June 05, 2005, 11:41:15 AM
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Until now, I've referred to the larger of these two beaches in harribob's last post as Micro Amoudibut I see that on the website for the Manolia apartments it's called Amoudaki. Does anyone know whether this is its correct name?
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i was told amoudaki and micro amoudaki but i find it changing everything i talk to different people

according to capn barefoot the larger of the two coves is refered to locally as the bay of pigs, i can understand why especially in high summer
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Greecemad on June 06, 2005, 12:13:24 PM
The translation of Mikro Amoudi and Amoudaki is the same thing: "Small Amoudi", so the two names mean the same thing and probably are both used. I like the photograph of it as there seem to be no ranks of umbrellas. I hope that it's still like that when I arrive around about the 21st June (I am working on Greek time!)

Greecemad
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Noopsy on June 06, 2005, 01:54:12 PM
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I like the photograph of it as there seem to be no ranks of umbrellas.
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That's true, but there seem to be an awful lot of bodies around.  (Is it like that in the low season i.e. September?)  Hmm.  Maybe I'll just stick to the "far end" where I know it won't be crowded.

Noopsy
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: roger on June 06, 2005, 02:49:53 PM
In my experience - which goes back to 1988- Sudha beach has become less and less naturist friendly over the years as it has become more accessible and therefore popular = and obviously the tarmacing of the road was a big factor in this but not the only one .When I was last there , in 2003 , when I arrived there were about 4 people nude but two of them fairly soon afterwards , the remaining two were a little way from me , and costumed people settled between us as the beach got busier in the afternoon and I was not comfortable about being surrounded by clothed sunbathers .I also remember when the west end of the main beach at damnoni was naturist but of ocurse hapimag killed that off .But now Mikra Amoudhi is more accessible - with a road round the cliff so you do not have to choose between a very long walk round the hill or a scramble down the cliff face - it still remains overwhelmingly naturist and is very popular  so sorry far-enders , that will remain my first choice beach
 roger
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: joe on June 08, 2005, 03:03:55 PM
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You are so lucky now because already at Plakias.

not so lucky     i flew home from Plakias yesterday as well

you will like the Paligremnos, i'm sure ( and they are having live music on thursday nights as well)
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I think you will come back soon to Plakias.
After my 2 weeks I will send you some warm words about Plakias I hope.
Only 23 days and I will fly and enjoy the sunshine and beach.....
Thanks your info about Paligremnos.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Noopsy on June 16, 2005, 01:59:19 PM
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Mikra Amoudhi is more accessible - with a road round the cliff so you do not have to choose between a very long walk round the hill or a scramble down the cliff face - it still remains overwhelmingly naturist and is very popular  so sorry far-enders , that will remain my first choice beach
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Exactly how do you get to the beaches at Mikro Amoudi by walking from Damnoni (i.e. where the "train" drops you off).     (Sorry if it's a daft question but I haven't been to that part of the island at all.)

Noopsy
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Post by: Allan Barham on June 16, 2005, 02:42:56 PM
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Exactly how do you get to the beaches at Mikro Amoudi by walking from Damnoni (i.e. where the "train" drops you off).     (Sorry if it's a daft question but I haven't been to that part of the island at all.)

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Walk to the sea front - possibly pausing for a drink at the taverna.  Turn left and keep walking with the sea on your right hand side.  As you walk around the headland you will see the beach below you.  You quite literally can't miss it.

Allan
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: shinaria on June 16, 2005, 02:49:13 PM
Just follow the [bare-] footprints!
 

shinaria
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 16, 2005, 02:50:15 PM
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Exactly how do you get to the beaches at Mikro Amoudi by walking from Damnoni (i.e. where the "train" drops you off).     (Sorry if it's a daft question but I haven't been to that part of the island at all.)

Noopsy
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You can walk from Plakias if you want (start from behind Plakias bay hotel)

but if you don't fancy that, walk east along the road by Damnoni beach (away from Hapimag) there's an incline at the end, turn right at the T junction and you'll find the first cove (the larger one) around the corner, the second is another 100 yards or so further on

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like the photograph of it as there seem to be no ranks of umbrellas.

they are there, but they are the straw/bamboo rather than the canvas type
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Post by: Karen T on June 21, 2005, 01:05:28 PM
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Exactly how do you get to the beaches at Mikro Amoudi by walking from Damnoni (i.e. where the "train" drops you off).     (Sorry if it's a daft question but I haven't been to that part of the island at all.)

Noopsy
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We usually take the car down to Damnoni and if we're early enough and the sunbed men haven't got there first, we park in one of the "garages" under the Minoan Prince hotel (the unfinished one backing Damnoni beach). It keeps the car a bit cooler and it's closer to Mikro Ammoudi. Then as others have said, walk with the sea on your right, to the point in the road where it bends off to the left. Here follow the path around the headland and it's the first beach you come to. As someone has already said, you literally can't miss it! The path beyond this beach widens (enough for cars to reach from the east) and continues on to the larger Ammoudi beach. Personally I haven't seen much nude bathing on Ammoudi although perhaps that's just the days I've been there. You can also walk on further around the headland finally reaching Skinaria beach although it is rather a long way and the route across the rocks is hazardous as there are some very sharp edges to the rocky landscap there. Much better to take the car to Skinaria although again I'm not sure how many bathe nude there (it was deserted on every occasion we've been there!). If taking the car to Skinaria though be very careful as the tarmacked road peters out and becomes rough track and there is (or was unless they've smoothed it out) an extremely steep bit past the Libyan Star hotel, which is a bit hairy to say the least. However, things may have changed as it is some years since we were down that way!

Anyone been down to Skinaria recently?

Karen
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: roger on June 21, 2005, 01:20:03 PM
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Exactly how do you get to the beaches at Mikro Amoudi by walking from Damnoni (i.e. where the "train" drops you off).     (Sorry if it's a daft question but I haven't been to that part of the island at all.)

Noopsy
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We usually take the car down to Damnoni and if we're early enough and the sunbed men haven't got there first, we park in one of the "garages" under the Minoan Prince hotel (the unfinished one backing Damnoni beach). It keeps the car a bit cooler and it's closer to Mikro Ammoudi. Then as others have said, walk with the sea on your right, to the point in the road where it bends off to the left. Here follow the path around the headland and it's the first beach you come to. As someone has already said, you literally can't miss it! The path beyond this beach widens (enough for cars to reach from the east) and continues on to the larger Ammoudi beach. Personally I haven't seen much nude bathing on Ammoudi although perhaps that's just the days I've been there. You can also walk on further around the headland finally reaching Skinaria beach although it is rather a long way and the route across the rocks is hazardous as there are some very sharp edges to the rocky landscap there. Much better to take the car to Skinaria although again I'm not sure how many bathe nude there (it was deserted on every occasion we've been there!). If taking the car to Skinaria though be very careful as the tarmacked road peters out and becomes rough track and there is (or was unless they've smoothed it out) an extremely steep bit past the Libyan Star hotel, which is a bit hairy to say the least. However, things may have changed as it is some years since we were down that way!

Anyone been down to Skinaria recently?

Karen
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Karen
i understand that the car would be cooler if kept in a garage but you would surely be cooler if you drove round the headland and parked by the beach itself -and there is usually plenty of room to park espin the morning
And what is your recent experience of sudha beach ? mine - and i am usually there in august - is very little if any nude sunbathing nowadays
Have you been to plakias this year and if not when are you going ? We have nine weeks to go - 23 august
roger
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Karen T on June 21, 2005, 03:56:45 PM
Hi Roger

We've not been to Plakias for a couple of years but when we were there, Souda didn't look like it was used much by nudists although we went nude ourselves.  As someone else has already said, Souda has become much more accessible now that the road is better and there are the tavernas there.  When we first used to go to Plakias, 15+ years ago,  there was nothing at all and the road was a hot, dusty track.  We were normally the only ones on the beach having usually been rambling up the tracks below and around Selia.

Karen
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Post by: harribobs on June 22, 2005, 09:41:13 AM
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we park in one of the "garages" under the Minoan Prince hotel (the unfinished one backing Damnoni beach).

you won't be parking there again, the minoan prince has been bulldozed for an expansion of the Hapimag time shares

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If taking the car to Skinaria though be very careful as the tarmacked road peters out and becomes rough track

the road is tarmac all the way down to the beach now

Souda and Skinaria seem to be more textile these days, last month i saw no nudists on either
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 22, 2005, 12:23:25 PM
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Souda and Skinaria seem to be more textile these days, last month i saw no nudists on either
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Such a shame that the trend seems to be for beaches to go totally textile. What we need are more beaches that accept a mix of nude and textile sunbathing. If a beach is not crowded, I find somewhere quiet and strip off anyway - sometimes others will take the cue and do likewise.
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Post by: Ali & Dave on June 22, 2005, 01:42:17 PM
The near end of Souda tends to be fairly nudist including Haris who does the sunbeds (when he's not collecting the money!!) but as Souda is used a lot by the Greeks especially at weekends they tend to get upset.

Some slightly worrying news, is that there is a beach bar being built at the far end of Plakias beach.  No one seems to know who is building it or whether the bar staff will be nude?
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 22, 2005, 02:50:17 PM
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... but as Souda is used a lot by the Greeks especially at weekends they tend to get upset.

Good point - it's important to be be aware of who's around you. I wouldn't want to upset anyone and especially not the locals. If it's quiet, Souda is big enough to acommodate both.
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Post by: harribobs on June 22, 2005, 03:11:42 PM
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Some slightly worrying news, is that there is a beach bar being built at the far end of Plakias beach. No one seems to know who is building it or whether the bar staff will be nude?

one thing is for certain that the staff WON'T be nude!  

actually IIRC the 'new' beach bar is not encroaching on the far end and is between the slightly older 'new' beach bar and the town, i wouldn't mind someone confirming this though
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: roger on June 22, 2005, 03:31:34 PM
My experience of sudha beach is similar to that of both Karens rather than Ali and Dave -ie hardly anyone now goes nude - though that may be because I go in august and it might be different in low season . I am a little uneasy both about the idea of a mix of nude and textile bathers sharing beaches  and abot being the first to strip off as others might follow suit = or rather no suit ! Some people esp if they have children simply prefer not to have nudists around andthat is as much their right as ours to go nude where no offence is caused . Even if a beach s quiet in the morning it can soon fill up by mid afternoon and i for one am not comfortable if surrounded by textiles . to me the attraction of mikro amoudhi is that it is 80 % nude ,peoplecan see that is the case when they get near the beach so no cause for offence cos ifyou might be offended you do not go there ,and everyoneknows that this a nude beach so most only go there if they intend to strip off or are with someone who does . My partner says she has no intention of going nude as she would not be comfortable . I think and hope she might change her mind when she is there but no problem if not and you often anyway get couples or groups where some are nude and others not
roger
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Post by: Barny on June 22, 2005, 04:52:00 PM
Re the far end of Plakias beach.
Its just a question i have been asked but is the far end an official naturist beach, or is it just accepted as that? Not that i can see an afternoon "raid" by the anti nude brigade ! they have to pass all the new beach bars first! Yes i go nude and the only time i don't is when the locals turn up and would not want to upset them.

                       Barny.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 22, 2005, 05:02:27 PM
I take your point Roger. To be honest, I've not been to Souda other than when it's been very quiet. I'm not advocating baring all once the pattern for the beach has been established for the day but if I were there bright and early I'd be tempted to go down the Plakias end of the beach nude in the hope that, at least for that day, nude bathing at that end would be acceptable. If I found, later on, that we were in a minority of 2, I'd either cover up or move on. I actually think Plakias far end and Micro Amoudi beaches are better than other nearby alternatives anyway so that's where we tend to go.
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Post by: harribobs on June 22, 2005, 10:56:23 PM
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Re the far end of Plakias beach.
Its just a question i have been asked but is the far end an official naturist beach, or is it just accepted as that?

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I am not sure there really are any official naturist beaches, only accepted ones. I thought that being naked was against the greek law.

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Not that i can see an afternoon "raid" by the anti nude brigade ! they have to pass all the new beach bars first!

god forbid crete should ever get like kefelonia, i shudder at the thought of scala beach being raided
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Post by: Mike G on June 23, 2005, 01:12:12 PM
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Some slightly worrying news, is that there is a beach bar being built at the far end of Plakias beach. No one seems to know who is building it or whether the bar staff will be nude?

one thing is for certain that the staff WON'T be nude!  

actually IIRC the 'new' beach bar is not encroaching on the far end and is between the slightly older 'new' beach bar and the town, i wouldn't mind someone confirming this though
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Harribobs is right. There is no beach bar being constructed at the "far end". This area has hardly changed in 10 years, except there are a few more umbrellas.

Mike
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Post by: Mike G on June 23, 2005, 01:19:40 PM
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I am not sure there really are any official naturist beaches, only accepted ones. I thought that being naked was against the greek law.

god forbid crete should ever get like kefelonia, i shudder at the thought of scala beach being raided
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I keep agreeing with Harribobs! It isn't official but Plakias far end is an accepted clothes optional beach. It is quite acceptable to queue for your doughnuts au naturel. Only minor downside seems to be a few local voyeuristic lads on occasion after the schools have finished. I would estimate ca. 80% of occupants were naked in May.

I heard that Scala beach was raided in 2002. Apparently many local traders are furious as trade has significantly dropped off. Shame, as it was one of my favourites.

Mike
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Rodger on June 23, 2005, 07:59:55 PM
How is Frangokastello beach these days?  Not exactly local to Plakias but on the same side of the island at least.

Last time I visited (over 10 years ago) it was totally deserted apart from half a dozen unclothed folk at the far end.  Totally undeveloped, hundreds of metres of sand-dunes.

BTW I also met a couple who'd been stuck there for three days through failing to guess the time the bus would turn up ...
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 23, 2005, 11:37:58 PM
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How is Frangokastello beach these days?  Not exactly local to Plakias but on the same side of the island at least.

Last time I visited (over 10 years ago) it was totally deserted apart from half a dozen unclothed folk at the far end.  Totally undeveloped, hundreds of metres of sand-dunes.

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we had a brief stay at Franco a couple of years ago, but didn't see any nudist around the town beach area

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BTW I also met a couple who'd been stuck there for three days through failing to guess the time the bus would turn up ...

long may it continue that way!!  

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I heard that Scala beach was raided in 2002. Apparently many local traders are furious as trade has significantly dropped off. Shame, as it was one of my favourites.

they apparently arrested one woman for being topless :'(

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I keep agreeing with Harribobs!

it's not often you hear that!!
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 24, 2005, 12:01:29 PM
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How is Frangokastello beach these days?  Not exactly local to Plakias but on the same side of the island at least.

Last time I visited (over 10 years ago) it was totally deserted apart from half a dozen unclothed folk at the far end.  Totally undeveloped, hundreds of metres of sand-dunes.
When we went there a couple of years ago, there was a sign saying 'No nude sunbathing' or similar. Disappointing really seeing as we were the only ones on the beach.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Ali & Dave on June 25, 2005, 12:23:53 PM
I can confirm the new beach bar is at the far end of the bay as we have been watching it's construction from our apartment behind Paligremnos.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: shinaria on June 27, 2005, 03:03:29 PM
Is the new establishment really at the far end of the beach right in the dunes or at the beach with the sea licking the barefoot soles of the custumers on their barchairs?? Or is just beneath the road? Which size has the bar ? And what´s about the dresscode on far end beach now. Not so many good news about the area in recent times...

Farenders of the world: unite!

shinaria
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Noopsy on June 28, 2005, 12:58:54 AM
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Walk to the sea front - possibly pausing for a drink at the taverna.  Turn left and keep walking with the sea on your right hand side.  As you walk around the headland you will see the beach below you.  You quite literally can't miss it.

Allan
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Sorry I haven't replied sooner.

Thank you Allan, shinaria and harribobs for the directions.  (Shinaria, you "photo-map" was especially useful.)  I think that I will print them all off and take them with me so I won't get lost while over there.

Karen, nice to hear from you.  It's unlikely that I will be hiring a car: I'll probably take the "train" to Damnoni as I don't see myself walking there from Plakias.

Noopsy
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Greecemad on June 29, 2005, 01:03:08 PM
I'm back home now and it's raining.

There IS a small beach bar near the far end. I didn't take much notice of it, but it is not to be confused with a larger beach bar which I think was opened last year and is about half way along the beach - that one was open well into the night.

The sunbeds stretch almost right to the end of the beach, further than in some years. However there is a big gap in the middle so there's plenty of room for those that just want to lie on the sand. I think there are more stones about getting into the sea than what I can remember from before.

Someone asked about where they could sunbathe nude in isolation. I've heard that along the road from Plakias to Souda there are various small bits of beach amongst the rocks where you can sunbathe without being seen.

Greecemad
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Mike G on June 29, 2005, 01:11:38 PM
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The sunbeds stretch almost right to the end of the beach, further than in some years. However there is a big gap in the middle so there's plenty of room for those that just want to lie on the sand. I think there are more stones about getting into the sea than what I can remember from before.
Greecemad describes the situation I found in May. Plenty of room to erect a beach tent or own umbrella. On some days nearly all the for hire sunbeds/umbrellas were taken, in marked contast to elsewhere on the beach.

Mike
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Ali & Dave on June 29, 2005, 01:58:10 PM
Just to add to the confusion over the new beach bars, there are actually two new ones this year, I believe, both built by brothers from Paligremnos.  One is small and immediately in front of Paligremnos and the other which is under construction now is right in front (i.e. on the sea side) of the sand dunes half way between Paligremnos and Plakias Bay Hotel.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 29, 2005, 04:20:33 PM
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Just to add to the confusion over the new beach bars, there are actually two new ones this year, I believe, both built by brothers from Paligremnos.  One is small and immediately in front of Paligremnos and the other which is under construction now is right in front (i.e. on the sea side) of the sand dunes half way between Paligremnos and Plakias Bay Hotel.
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These development are slightly worrying. A beach bar isn't necessarily a problem but we like the far end as it has been until now.
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Post by: Sebbee on June 29, 2005, 11:12:29 PM
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Just to add to the confusion over the new beach bars, there are actually two new ones this year, I believe, both built by brothers from Paligremnos.  One is small and immediately in front of Paligremnos and the other which is under construction now is right in front (i.e. on the sea side) of the sand dunes half way between Paligremnos and Plakias Bay Hotel.
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These development are slightly worrying. A beach bar isn't necessarily a problem but we like the far end as it has been until now.
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Post by: Sebbee on June 29, 2005, 11:13:51 PM
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Just to add to the confusion over the new beach bars, there are actually two new ones this year, I believe, both built by brothers from Paligremnos.  One is small and immediately in front of Paligremnos and the other which is under construction now is right in front (i.e. on the sea side) of the sand dunes half way between Paligremnos and Plakias Bay Hotel.
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These development are slightly worrying. A beach bar isn't necessarily a problem but we like the far end as it has been until now.
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Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Sebbee on June 29, 2005, 11:40:33 PM
[attachment=123:attachment][attachment=124:attachment]Continuing the topic of the beach bars, while we were there two weeks ago, construction started on the beach bar at the far end, between the dunes parallel to the parking bay just down from the Plakias Bay Hotel. The guy from Paligremnos came up and went nuts at the builder guys, so I don't think it's his doing. I also heard him talking to some Paligremnos guests about being nervous because every time he turned around there was another beach bar being built. And the day of the big barney, as we were leaving the beach two policemen arrived to talk to the builder guys as if there had been a protest about the construction, and again I'm assuming that complaint was made by Mr Paligremnos. Freddie from the beach started off saying it would just sell drinks, and then that extended to become maybe sandwiches, and maybe pizza . . .! It will spoil the atmosphere of the far end irrevocably as far as I can see. And talk about a blot on the landscape! I've got pictures which I'll try to attach. Wish me luck!
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Barny on June 30, 2005, 11:16:33 AM
I still cant work out the location of this bar ! as i look at the photo, what building is that on the middle right? its been a while since last August but not long till this August ! I will still eat and drink at Antonis at lunchtime. oh yes !

                                   Barny.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on June 30, 2005, 11:38:19 AM
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while we were there two weeks ago, construction started on the beach bar at the far end, between the dunes parallel to the parking bay just down from the Plakias Bay Hotel.

that is NOT good news
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Post by: Mike G on June 30, 2005, 01:10:52 PM
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I still can't work out the location of this bar!
I'm a bit confused as well. It looks quite close to the road so shouldn't be too obtrusive for those on the beach. What is the building on the far right hand side of photo 1? Is it Palegremnos or Plakias Bay Hotel?  

Regarding Graham and Karen's concerns, I was there in May for the first time in 10 years (before the second of the new beach bar constructions admittedly) but thought the far end had hardly changed. Just a few more umbrellas/sunbeds, but these were being well used.

Mike
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Sebbee on June 30, 2005, 11:12:15 PM
OK, so pic one - I took it as we were leaving the far end beds. You know if you were leaving the beach and had to choose between taking the path along to the left to Paligremnos or going straight ahead to the parking bay on the road just down from the Plakias Bay Hotel? The beach bar is right there in the gap. Pic two is taken from that parking bay which is just before the road curves up the last wee bit to the Plakias Bay Hotel. Get it? Lying on a bed in the back row about five along from the far end shower, we were able to watch and hear them building it, that's how close it is. As someone said, it is so not good news.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Ali & Dave on July 01, 2005, 01:59:36 PM
Latest news - there is no longer a new beach bar!!!  It would appear that permission had not been granted and it has now been demolished.  There's never a dull moment here.
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Post by: shinaria on July 01, 2005, 02:56:27 PM
Good to hear that the finika officials do not tolerate things like this ... I hope it will not harm a poor man!  Worst thing about this building was that it has been the first trial to "jump over the street" and who knows what would be planned next?!
It´s so great to carry all the bottles of water and juice [for the whole day and four persons] bread and fruit from the local stores in plakias to the very end of the bay.  
And to know: Leftheris´Donuts will be served on an unpredictable hour of the day.  The hunger grows ... and then you hear his whispers...  carried by the wind from still far away... That´s my culinarical dream of the farend days.  And I´m not joking!



Thanks for the good  news
shinaria
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on July 01, 2005, 03:24:16 PM
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Latest news - there is no longer a new beach bar!!!  It would appear that permission had not been granted and it has now been demolished.  There's never a dull moment here.
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Good news indeed - Thanks for the update  
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Post by: Sebbee on July 01, 2005, 09:30:23 PM
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Latest news - there is no longer a new beach bar!!!  It would appear that permission had not been granted and it has now been demolished.  There's never a dull moment here.
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Good news indeed - Thanks for the update  
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Yeehah! Thanks, Ali and Dave, you've made my day!
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Post by: Susan K on July 01, 2005, 09:42:46 PM
Which one has gone or or is it both?

Susan
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Post by: Ali & Dave on July 02, 2005, 12:32:38 PM
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Which one has gone or or is it both?

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Susan - the one that's been removed is the one that Sebbee has photos of

Ali
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Rodger on July 03, 2005, 08:47:09 PM
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The translation of Mikro Amoudi and Amoudaki is the same thing: "Small Amoudi", so the two names mean the same thing and probably are both used. I like the photograph of it as there seem to be no ranks of umbrellas. I hope that it's still like that when I arrive around about the 21st June (I am working on Greek time!)

Greecemad
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Well I guess you've found out by now ... when I was last there back in the late 20th century they had installed sunbeds, umbrellas and even a shower, not at all like the old days ...

BTW the description of this beach in the Rough Guide to Crete seems unchanged from the first edition of the Rough Guide to Greece, 1980-something, even down to the "Nivea beach balls".  Anyone ever spotted one of them?
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: harribobs on July 04, 2005, 12:35:27 AM
i honestly couldn't remember where i'd seen the other 'new' beach bar so i zoomed in on one of my pics from the headlands at the far end

this is opposite the pelgramnos, which i assume is still there
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Post by: Greecemad on July 04, 2005, 01:16:39 PM
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Well I guess you've found out by now ... when I was last there back in the late 20th century they had installed sunbeds, umbrellas and even a shower, not at all like the old days ...

Yes, I have found out now. There are sunbeds and umbrellas on the beach though not as many as I remember from a few years ago. I remember one year when it wasn't possible to lay on the sand without going behind all the sunbeds - now there's plenty of room in front of them. So it's not like the old days when you had to scramble over the headland to get there - I did walk over there this year where the path used to go, but you get your ankles and shins all scratched with the undergrowth that has grown back again. However, the beach is quite acceptable to me in its current state.

Greecemad
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: spottttttt on June 01, 2010, 03:38:29 PM
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Well I guess you've found out by now ... when I was last there back in the late 20th century they had installed sunbeds, umbrellas and even a shower, not at all like the old days ...

Yes, I have found out now. There are sunbeds and umbrellas on the beach though not as many as I remember from a few years ago. I remember one year when it wasn't possible to lay on the sand without going behind all the sunbeds - now there's plenty of room in front of them. So it's not like the old days when you had to scramble over the headland to get there - I did walk over there this year where the path used to go, but you get your ankles and shins all scratched with the undergrowth that has grown back again. However, the beach is quite acceptable to me in its current state.

Greecemad
Has the shower at the far end been fixed yet? or is it still spewing out water?
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Post by: George on June 01, 2010, 04:23:53 PM
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Has the shower at the far end been fixed yet? or is it still spewing out water?
OMG You don't mean it was spewing out Mythos do you?  

Sorry spotttttt you lost me there, isn't that what showers are supposed to do, 'spew out water'?

george...
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Mike from Sussex on June 01, 2010, 04:41:18 PM
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Has the shower at the far end been fixed yet? or is it still spewing out water?
OMG You don't mean it was spewing out Mythos do you?  

Sorry spotttttt you lost me there, isn't that what showers are supposed to do, 'spew out water'?

george...

I'm not sure which one is intended George. The first one is behind the first block of beds and is of the push the button and get a short spray kind. Perhaps this was running constantly. Otherwise we have the hosepipe on a stick by the trees. I can't see how that could be "fixed". I hope it isn't fed from a metered supply  
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: spottttttt on June 01, 2010, 05:05:56 PM
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Has the shower at the far end been fixed yet? or is it still spewing out water?
OMG You don't mean it was spewing out Mythos do you?  

Sorry spotttttt you lost me there, isn't that what showers are supposed to do, 'spew out water'?

george...

I'm not sure which one is intended George. The first one is behind the first block of beds and is of the push the button and get a short spray kind. Perhaps this was running constantly. Otherwise we have the hosepipe on a stick by the trees. I can't see how that could be "fixed". I hope it isn't fed from a metered supply  
Oh its a hose pipe is it? I thought it was a shower with the shower head broken off which allowed water to spew out continously. I stand corrected!!
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on June 01, 2010, 05:28:39 PM
Spottttt - My (and several others') understanding is that the end 'shower' is allowed to run continuosly so that the water in the pipe doesn't get scaldingly hot. Maybe not a strong arguement at the moment but makes sense in the height of summer.
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: spottttttt on June 01, 2010, 06:11:49 PM
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Spottttt - My (and several others') understanding is that the end 'shower' is allowed to run continuosly so that the water in the pipe doesn't get scaldingly hot. Maybe not a strong arguement at the moment but makes sense in the height of summer.
Makes perfect sense, thanks Roll on July!!!
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Dutchy on June 01, 2010, 06:30:27 PM
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Spottttt - My (and several others') understanding is that the end 'shower' is allowed to run continuosly so that the water in the pipe doesn't get scaldingly hot. Maybe not a strong arguement at the moment but makes sense in the height of summer.




Maybe it also reduces the risk of legionella developing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionella (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legionella)
Title: Nudist beaches
Post by: Kerstin on June 02, 2010, 08:27:41 PM
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Spottttt - My (and several others') understanding is that the end 'shower' is allowed to run continuosly so that the water in the pipe doesn't get scaldingly hot. Maybe not a strong arguement at the moment but makes sense in the height of summer.

Both showers have worked in the same way during our stay and we enjoyed it every day.
Personally, I do not like the end "shower" because there are so much bees and I am allergic against a bite of bees.
Therefore I avoid to go to this shower.