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Title: Kosmar
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on October 24, 2004, 02:52:45 PM
Just booked for September 2005   I see that Gatwick flights go to Chania rather than Heraklion (may be the same from other UK airports - I didn't check). Looking forward to it being less chaotic than the night flight back from Heraklion. The price was lower than Olympic by about £60 per person (for 2 weeks) so well worth looking at.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: george g... on October 28, 2004, 01:26:20 PM
I wanted to book the Lamon with Kosmar but they are not allowing any 'singles' in any of their rooms, but they did offer me the Apollon with a £13 suppliment per night. You can guess what I told them to do with it!
I had a day flight back from Heraklion this year and it was a horrendous experience, I am aiming for Chania in 2005!
george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on November 02, 2004, 09:21:35 AM
slightly off topic, but regarding heraklion vs hania,

in may we had to wait for 2 hours, most of it outside, before we could even get into the terminal

in september we were checked in, through security and into the departure lounge in ten minutes

the delay was in hania !!!!

the record breaking check in was heraklion

(but i still prefer to fly into hania)

 
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Allan Barham on November 02, 2004, 01:20:01 PM
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slightly off topic, but regarding heraklion vs hania,

in may we had to wait for 2 hours, most of it outside, before we could even get into the terminal

in september we were checked in, through security and into the departure lounge in ten minutes

the delay was in hania !!!!

the record breaking check in was heraklion

(but i still prefer to fly into hania)

 
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But at least at Chania there is a pleasant taverna just outside the airport entrance where you could have enjoyed a cold Mythos whilst waiting for the queue to clear!

Regards,

Allan
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on November 03, 2004, 05:12:54 PM
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But at least at Chania there is a pleasant taverna just outside the airport entrance where you could have enjoyed a cold Mythos whilst waiting for the queue to clear!

Regards,

Allan
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Quite true, but i wasn't chancing losing my place in that queue for a bottle of mythos!
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on November 08, 2004, 01:13:01 PM
Having now seen the Kosmar brochure (2nd edition) I certainly agree with Graham and Karen's Oct 24 comments about it being worth looking at. It looks good re. Plakias with two decent looking properties, very good prices, and Chania flights (daytime only).  

They don't mention an on-line discount and if this is so then the cheapest way to book would be through a travel agent who always offers a discount (e.g. Magic Breaks).

Kosmar also has some other interesting resorts- Matala and Georgioupolis on Crete (both with clothes optional beaches for those of that persuasion) as well as several of my other favourite resorts on other islands. They also feature islands without an international airport (Paros, Naxos) which other operators have abandoned owing to ferries being cancelled and having to bear additional costs associated with this.

I look forward to hearing some reports of Kosmar in Plakias next year.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on November 10, 2004, 02:22:41 PM
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Kosmar also has some other interesting resorts- Matala and Georgioupolis on Crete (both with clothes optional beaches for those of that persuasion) as well as several of my other favourite resorts on other islands.[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=2662\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

IMHO anyone who loves Plakias will not like Georgioupolis, but each to their own

However, Matala is one of our favourite places in the world, we try and spend a few days (at least) there most years

One point about it though, the main beach, beautiful as it is, isn't a nudist beach it's hardly a topless one either. The nudist beach is Red Beach, which is the next beach/cove along to the east. Unless there is a water taxi boat running from the town, the only way to Red Beach is a difficult 20 minute walk over quite a nasty hill. It's not dangerous but can be ackward.


the beach it's self is wonderful............
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on November 11, 2004, 01:10:27 PM
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anyone who loves Plakias will not like Georgioupolis, but each to their own
I've never been there but have always thought it looked a "non lager lout" resort with a decent beach, tavernas etc. Could Harribobs please expand on his opinion.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Stick of Rock on November 13, 2004, 02:12:30 PM
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anyone who loves Plakias will not like Georgioupolis, but each to their own
I've never been there but have always thought it looked a "non lager lout" resort with a decent beach, tavernas etc. Could Harribobs please expand on his opinion.

Mike
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September 2004 was my first visit to the village for 25 years. There was one large spreading tree in those days and two tavernas in the square. You had to walk about 1/4 mile with suitcases to the only hotel as there was no road along the beach and the river ran into the sea through dense reeds which boded ill regarding mozzie breeding grounds. The brochure had warned that a torch was needed for the walk home from the tavernas. I didn't stay there ... only stopped while others on the coach were dropped off. Thought at the time that it was far too quiet for a two week holiday

"Youth" ... gone ... all gone!  along with the village.

This year it was thronged, noisy and smelled of chips. It was nose to tail all along the the beach and full of beds and umbrellas. The accomodation extends three blocks behind the beach road and is high density. There were no tavernas only tourist caffs as far as we could see and there were around a dozen estate agencies. Get the picture?

But don't take my word for it. I've been spoilt by Plakias
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on November 13, 2004, 02:50:27 PM
From Stick of Rock's description, it doesn't sound like my sort of place. Thanks for the opinion.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on November 17, 2004, 02:58:58 PM
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Having now seen the Kosmar brochure (2nd edition) I certainly agree with Graham and Karen's Oct 24 comments about it being worth looking at. It looks good re. Plakias with two decent looking properties, very good prices, and Chania flights (daytime only).   

They don't mention an on-line discount and if this is so then the cheapest way to book would be through a travel agent who always offers a discount (e.g. Magic Breaks).

Kosmar also has some other interesting resorts- Matala and Georgioupolis on Crete (both with clothes optional beaches for those of that persuasion) as well as several of my other favourite resorts on other islands. They also feature islands without an international airport (Paros, Naxos) which other operators have abandoned owing to ferries being cancelled and having to bear additional costs associated with this.

I look forward to hearing some reports of Kosmar in Plakias next year.

Mike
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Looks like we have missed our chance for our late break with Kosmar it appears they are fully booked for the time we like to visit.

Dotty   :'(
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on November 17, 2004, 03:17:46 PM
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Looks like we have missed our chance for our late break with Kosmar it appears they are fully booked for the time we like to visit.
It's only mid November and Kosmar is fully booked for some dates. This just makes it more surprising to me that First Choice pulled out, as there is obviously a demand that others are finding hard to satisfy.

I know there are others like me who are "cautious" travellers and want to go with a tour operator rather than independently. At what I consider reasonable prices there are now only Olympic and Kosmar. No wonder others have said Plakias is significantly less busy than a few years ago.

I hope these two companies do well in 2005 and that a couple of others are encouraged into the market.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: fraoula on November 19, 2004, 04:33:15 PM
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Looks like we have missed our chance for our late break with Kosmar it appears they are fully booked for the time we like to visit.
It's only mid November and Kosmar is fully booked for some dates. This just

 
Fully booked?   Doesn't surprise me actually  !  Which dates were you guys hoping to book,if I may ask?  

I agree Plakias does seem to have a great demand.I still can't understand how First Choice can justify their actions !! . Maybe First choice ahd too much competition with the Independant traveller or it may be that First Choice simply wanted to be more mainstream?! Who knows, the truth is out there...somewhere  
Title: Kosmar
Post by: fraoula on November 19, 2004, 04:37:17 PM
By the way, I vote Xania airport
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on November 19, 2004, 07:18:30 PM
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Looks like we have missed our chance for our late break with Kosmar it appears they are fully booked for the time we like to visit.
It's only mid November and Kosmar is fully booked for some dates. This just

 
Fully booked?   Doesn't surprise me actually  !  Which dates were you guys hoping to book,if I may ask?  

I agree Plakias does seem to have a great demand.I still can't understand how First Choice can justify their actions !! . Maybe First choice ahd too much competition with the Independant traveller or it may be that First Choice simply wanted to be more mainstream?! Who knows, the truth is out there...somewhere  
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27/30th September is the time we visit Plakias as we like to celebrate our Wedding Anniversary    ( on the 6th October) whilst there. Other commitments meant we could not book earlier so now looks like we have missed our chance for next years celebration   Plus the chance to meet up with new found friends  Looks like Kosmar need to book more accomadation!
Title: Kosmar
Post by: sheryl on November 19, 2004, 07:43:06 PM
hate to tell you but olympic is already booked up for weeks in july aswell  
i went in to the travel agents to price the holiday and they could only give me a week so i had to book for earlier to get a fortnight - whats going on

as for first choice, i'd asked the rep this year and he said that the problem was the transfer costs were to high for plakias and they weren't making enough money compared to other resorts closer to heraklion  

i say we all chip in and buy a plane, i'm sure as regulars could quite easily fill it
Title: Kosmar
Post by: John R on November 19, 2004, 08:13:31 PM
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27/30th September is the time we visit Plakias as we like to celebrate our Wedding Anniversary    ( on the 6th October) whilst there. Other commitments meant we could not book earlier so now looks like we have missed our chance for next years celebration   Plus the chance to meet up with new found friends  Looks like Kosmar need to book more accomadation!
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Well - we celebrate ours a day earlier - we should have got together this October for a two day celebration to cement our newfound friendship  

John R and Gillian
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on November 19, 2004, 08:21:52 PM
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27/30th September is the time we visit Plakias as we like to celebrate our Wedding Anniversary    ( on the 6th October) whilst there. Other commitments meant we could not book earlier so now looks like we have missed our chance for next years celebration   Plus the chance to meet up with new found friends  Looks like Kosmar need to book more accomadation!
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Well - we celebrate ours a day earlier - we should have got together this October for a two day celebration to cement our newfound friendship  

John R and Gillian
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That was eggcactly my thoughts on the subject should have know I would Jinx it . Maybe another year. Looks like The other event is going ahead though.

Dotty
Title: Kosmar
Post by: fraoula on November 20, 2004, 05:47:50 PM
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as for first choice, i'd asked the rep this year and he said that the problem was the transfer costs were to high for plakias and they weren't making enough money compared to other resorts closer to heraklion  


OH DEAR!    Who at first choice thought that one up! If that was the case, then First Choice, along with most other tour operators must be losing out on a hell
of alot resorts in Greece!!! I mean come on, if you take Turkey(just an example, I know it's not part of Greece   ) for instance, with its numerous airports - I think you'll find that the resorts tourists tend to travel to are 2-3 hours from the airport! So how are First Choice coping with that '' loss''? Are they going to drop Turkey or infact all resorts worldwide which have a transfer time of 1 hour plus!??
    Not the Rep's fault of course.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: John R on November 21, 2004, 01:08:14 PM
I talked to the rep about this as well and what he meant was that the prices were so low for Plakias (too low) and the transfer costs were high per person because in particular off season there are so few people to transfer. When we have gone, there are sometimes only 6 people to transer and they used 2 taxis. When a few more than 6, a near empty bus was used. We paid in total for two of us, £430 for 2 weeks Bed and Breakfast. Now a taxi transer both ways would have cost us over £100. No doubt first choice "negotiates" better rates than that with the taxis but leaving about £330 for two weeks holiday and a return flight for two to a provincial airport does not look very profitable to me. Basically they needed to have raised the prices over the last 9 years we have gone with them. Instead of that we were paying less on our 9th year than we were on our first year. We would have happily gone along with them gradually increasing prices.

Kosmar are charging about £120 more than First Choice - so that at least would allow for transfer costs. However with them already running out of rooms for next September !! it would appear that they are running a very small operation - perhaps on a trial wait and see basis ?? At least it shows that people are MORE than willing to pay those higher prices which First Choice should have charged.

John R
Title: Kosmar
Post by: fraoula on November 22, 2004, 09:31:01 AM
   Yes... I think Kosmar know a good thing when they see it! As most of you have probably seen the kosmar brochure, you'll know that they deal with a few larger resorts throughout the Islands and mainland but they're also a company that like to get their hands on the more traditional towns and villages in Greece.  In my opinion, Kosmar could be very happy down in Plakias...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on November 22, 2004, 10:51:04 AM
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  Yes... I think Kosmar know a good thing when they see it! As most of you have probably seen the kosmar brochure, you'll know that they deal with a few larger resorts throughout the Islands and mainland but they're also a company that like to get their hands on the more traditional towns and villages in Greece.  In my opinion, Kosmar could be very happy down in Plakias...
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Hope you are right, I believe they are (or were) a Greek company and I believe (rightly or wrongly) they only deal in Greece.  Just wish they had taken on more accomadation.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: george g... on November 22, 2004, 01:28:54 PM
I went to the agent last Saturday with a list of 15 combinations of dates and apartments and got the first one on the list with no problems.
The following 4 were all available too.
Try Olympic for the Dora or the Kostas Chrissy on the 30.08, looks like plenty of spaces, unless they sold them all on Saturday. Sorry!
george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on November 22, 2004, 01:39:28 PM
I agree with what has been posted in the last few days.

There are plenty of tour operators going (profitably?) to Greek resorts with more expensive transfers than Plakias. FC prices were very low, but I'm amazed what John R has reported, that they are lower than 9 years ago. For 2005 they were significantly less than Olympic and Kosmar and both of these last two struck me as good value. They were miles less than the other small operators going to Plakias and also much less than going independently, for those travelling out of season at least.

I can't believe it is too difficult to cost the holidays and charge accordingly. I, for one, want good value, but the bottom line is that I want a good holiday and a few tens of pounds either way is not something which would deter me from the holiday I want. Just compare what you might pay in a reasonable UK hotel for one night (or even self catering) and it is obvious that the value is excellent.

Let's all hope that Kosmar are successful and expand their Plakias operation for 2006 onwards.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Barny on November 22, 2004, 03:37:40 PM
Hello all, just been on the flight only bit on Kosmar, they want £30 pp more than first choice for next august on the same 'plane !  so i booked with first choice! see you soon.

           Barny.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Allan Barham on November 22, 2004, 05:06:48 PM
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Hello all, just been on the flight only bit on Kosmar, they want £30 pp more than first choice for next august on the same 'plane !  so i booked with first choice! see you soon.

           Barny.
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Hi Barny,

I can't find you on the calendar for August 2005.  When are you in Plakias?  Shall we see you at the next Plakform dinner?

Regards.

Allan & Fran
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on November 23, 2004, 02:22:53 PM
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I went to the agent last Saturday with a list of 15 combinations of dates and apartments and got the first one on the list with no problems.
The following 4 were all available too.
Try Olympic for the Dora or the Kostas Chrissy on the 30.08, looks like plenty of spaces, unless they sold them all on Saturday. Sorry!
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Thanks but we wanted 30/09 could get in Kostas with Olympic but came out about £800    bit steep for us only paying under half that this year
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on December 03, 2004, 10:05:44 PM
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anyone who loves Plakias will not like Georgioupolis, but each to their own
I've never been there but have always thought it looked a "non lager lout" resort with a decent beach, tavernas etc. Could Harribobs please expand on his opinion.

Mike
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i think the place has been accurately described

i hadn't realised just how far down it had gone until i was talking with a greek friend who mentioned it  
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on December 03, 2004, 10:12:07 PM
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OH DEAR!    Who at first choice thought that one up! If that was the case, then First Choice, along with most other tour operators must be losing out on a hell
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As i understand it FC have pulled out of lots of places, it's a cost cutting exercise, trimming out the less profitable resorts all over europe

as much as we like plakias, we're not the sort of customers tour operators want

i wouldn't mind a small wager that most of us wouldn't even consider going to a welcome meeting, never mind an overpriced excursion!
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on December 04, 2004, 09:03:21 AM
Quite right - I felt sorry for our FC rep this year, Gary. He admitted that he didn't try to sell excursions at his welcome meetins in Plakias. Hope it didn't affect his chances of promotion as he said we was in FC for the long term.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike G on December 04, 2004, 10:40:51 AM
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wouldn't mind a small wager that most of us wouldn't even consider going to a welcome meeting, never mind an overpriced excursion!
In the past I have been to lots of different Greek resorts and find the welcome meetings (which I always go to) range between quite informative and quite uninformative. It depends on the rep. They tend to be better at the end of the season when the rep has built up a decent amount of local knowledge. I have noticed that others seem to use them as a way of meeting other new guests. I can quite understand why most of the regular visitors to Plakias wouldn't bother with them as they must know more than the reps!

I agree about excursions booked through reps being a rip off. Much cheaper booked independently but I have heard that the multilingual ones are best avoided. As you say, this is a shame as the reps use excursions to boost their meagre wages.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: george g... on December 06, 2004, 01:33:08 PM
I haven't been to a welcome meeting for years and this year in Plakias was my 10th time and always with a tour company. This year however I did make the effort just to find out why FC was pulling and I must salute Gary for his honesty. He did tell me that if Plakias ever gets back onto the FC portfolio he would be volunteering for the reps job.
The meeting consisted of me and one other older couple and that was it, and I didn't have to correct any of the spiel, he had done his homework very well.
I know you've been reading the site Gary, hope your ok and look forward to seeing you back in Plakias sometime.
george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: DOTTY on December 11, 2004, 06:18:39 PM
Anyone been on the Kosmar site lately it appears the Appollon now has rooms at the dates it was booked up before. I wonder are these cancellations or have Kosmar taken on more rooms?  

  Dotty
Title: Kosmar
Post by: fraoula on December 13, 2004, 11:41:21 AM
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anyone who loves Plakias will not like Georgioupolis, but each to their own
I've never been there but have always thought it looked a "non lager lout" resort with a decent beach, tavernas etc. Could Harribobs please expand on his opinion.

Mike
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i think the place has been accurately described

i hadn't realised just how far down it had gone until i was talking with a greek friend who mentioned it  
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Georgioupolis was a lovely place, that was when it was just a long sandy beach with  a small beach hut at one end and no sun beds! That is how i remembered Georgioupolis until we drove past it last year and saw the tatty bars
along the front and red bodied lassies walking along the main roadside with a pint in one hand  and a portion of chips in the other............  
   nothing against beer and chips but there's a time and a place and not at 09.00 in the morning
Title: Kosmar
Post by: harribobs on December 21, 2004, 05:07:37 PM
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saw the tatty bars
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sounds like manchester on any given night  
Title: Kosmar
Post by: beachboy on September 06, 2007, 04:29:58 PM
Hi All

We are visiting Plakies for the first time and we are staying at the Lamon Apt/Htl if anybody has any recent feedback then please do reply.  As you can see I have a lot of questions and details sorry to be a pain

We are travelling with Kosmar and flying into Chania with Xl airways?  Reading through your forum and the description of beaches/sunbathing we will fall into the "Far ender type" so we hope to get an all over tan.

Can anybody tell me how far the "far end" is from the Lamon hotel we are both fit and able thank God so just looking for an idea of the time/distance.  

The other two beaches further East look interesting but will consider the walk when we are there.

Can anybody clarify who is the owner of the sun shades/umbrellas ie. local municiplity/sun lounger owners?

If any of you reply let me thank you for your advice and congrats on having a great site "Very proffessional and friendly"

Thanks

BAM
Title: Kosmar
Post by: John R on September 06, 2007, 07:48:12 PM
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Hi All

We are visiting Plakies for the first time and we are staying at the Lamon Apt/Htl if anybody has any recent feedback then please do reply.  As you can see I have a lot of questions and details sorry to be a pain

We are travelling with Kosmar and flying into Chania with Xl airways?  Reading through your forum and the description of beaches/sunbathing we will fall into the "Far ender type" so we hope to get an all over tan.

Can anybody tell me how far the "far end" is from the Lamon hotel we are both fit and able thank God so just looking for an idea of the time/distance.  

The other two beaches further East look interesting but will consider the walk when we are there.

Can anybody clarify who is the owner of the sun shades/umbrellas ie. local municiplity/sun lounger owners?

If any of you reply let me thank you for your advice and congrats on having a great site "Very proffessional and friendly"

Thanks

BAM

Hi

Welcome to the Forum - tis what we are here for to answer/ask lots of questions

I'm not a Farender - but know most of the answers (I'm a minority in Plakias but we DO talk to our farender friends !!)

Lamon is close to the Far End as indeed is the whole town but Lamon is at the far end end of town. So a level 10 minute walk - less if you are fit, keen and in a hurry.

Freddy - a young amiable Albanian Character will collect the cash from you when he finds you occupying the sunloungers. Don't know who legally "owns" them but he's in charge. Towards the end of last season I also noticed him working in the bar at the Lamon - but things can change.

Lamon gets variable feedback - but I'm sure you will be ok there. It is very much on the front right opposite the beach (not the Far end bit though.)

14 days to go.................................................


John R
Title: Kosmar
Post by: jenny on September 06, 2007, 08:00:13 PM
How far is it? - in truth less than a km, much less than that if you just go to the start of the 'Far End'.

How long does it take? - I've said this before elsewhere - depends who you stop to talk to (etc) along the way  .......

But it is all on the flat, and a very pleasant walk along t'prom.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: George on September 07, 2007, 08:36:03 AM
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Hi All

We are visiting Plakies for the first time and we are staying at the Lamon Apt/Htl if anybody has any recent feedback then please do reply.  As you can see I have a lot of questions and details sorry to be a pain

We are travelling with Kosmar and flying into Chania with Xl airways?  Reading through your forum and the description of beaches/sunbathing we will fall into the "Far ender type" so we hope to get an all over tan.

Can anybody tell me how far the "far end" is from the Lamon hotel we are both fit and able thank God so just looking for an idea of the time/distance.  

The other two beaches further East look interesting but will consider the walk when we are there.

Can anybody clarify who is the owner of the sun shades/umbrellas ie. local municiplity/sun lounger owners?

If any of you reply let me thank you for your advice and congrats on having a great site "Very proffessional and friendly"

Thanks

BAM
Hi BAM

Never stayed at the Lamon, but have heard good reports about it. Cute little pool at the front overlooking the beach and a nice bar area next to it, and yes Freddie is working there this year in the evenings and does the 2 sets of beds at the far end. You will love him everyone does, very friendly and always up for a laugh    and speaks very good English.
The Far End, as has been said is about a 10 minute stroll along a flat road behind the beach, or preferably come straight out of the Lamon straight down to the waters edge and get to it that way.
The other 2 beaches, Amoudi and Micro Amoudi?? Someone will fill you in and point you towards some pictures of them. Never been there other than to have a look, I am a devoted Far Ender   !!
The beds along the village part of the beach are more often owned by the Apartments/Hotels directly behind them. It doesn't matter though anyone can use them. (2 x beds and a parasol = 5 euros). And as Freddie suggested this year if you pay him up front for next year, he'll reserve them for you  .

As JR said we are here to answer questions so don't hesitate to ask, we are all Plakiasites here and talk all year about the place we all love  , waiting until the next time. Only 50 weeks to go  , see what I mean?

Get back to us when you return, let us know what you think good or bad... and when you will be going back  

Have a good one!!

george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Mike from Sussex on September 07, 2007, 09:34:05 AM
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Hi All

We are visiting Plakies for the first time and we are staying at the Lamon Apt/Htl if anybody has any recent feedback then please do reply.  As you can see I have a lot of questions and details sorry to be a pain

We are travelling with Kosmar and flying into Chania with Xl airways?  Reading through your forum and the description of beaches/sunbathing we will fall into the "Far ender type" so we hope to get an all over tan.

Can anybody tell me how far the "far end" is from the Lamon hotel we are both fit and able thank God so just looking for an idea of the time/distance.  

The other two beaches further East look interesting but will consider the walk when we are there.

Can anybody clarify who is the owner of the sun shades/umbrellas ie. local municiplity/sun lounger owners?

If any of you reply let me thank you for your advice and congrats on having a great site "Very proffessional and friendly"

Thanks

BAM
Hi BAM

Never stayed at the Lamon, but have heard good reports about it. Cute little pool at the front overlooking the beach and a nice bar area next to it, and yes Freddie is working there this year in the evenings and does the 2 sets of beds at the far end. You will love him everyone does, very friendly and always up for a laugh    and speaks very good English.
The Far End, as has been said is about a 10 minute stroll along a flat road behind the beach, or preferably come straight out of the Lamon straight down to the waters edge and get to it that way.
The other 2 beaches, Amoudi and Micro Amoudi?? Someone will fill you in and point you towards some pictures of them. Never been there other than to have a look, I am a devoted Far Ender   !!
The beds along the village part of the beach are more often owned by the Apartments/Hotels directly behind them. It doesn't matter though anyone can use them. (2 x beds and a parasol = 5 euros). And as Freddie suggested this year if you pay him up front for next year, he'll reserve them for you  .

As JR said we are here to answer questions so don't hesitate to ask, we are all Plakiasites here and talk all year about the place we all love  , waiting until the next time. Only 50 weeks to go  , see what I mean?

Get back to us when you return, let us know what you think good or bad... and when you will be going back  

Have a good one!!

george g...

Last summer Freddie told us he was finding the work at the Lamon too much. He hadn't been married very long and was not seeing enough of his bride      Said he definitely wouldn't do the Lamon this season.

BAM

The beds are privately owned, but the owners have to pay a fee to the municipality for permission to use the beach.

From the Lamon to the far end of the Far End took my wife and myself about 15 mins, not dawdling, but slow enough not to break into a sweat.

Mike
Title: Kosmar
Post by: jenny on September 07, 2007, 10:28:40 PM
Someone mentioned walking on the beach to the Far End, along the sea edge.   Good plan if you have one leg longer than the other and can arrange to swap them round to walk back, or otherwise wish to see how quickly you can walk backwards.

It is also much further because of all the sandcastles you have to detour round ditto toys, lilos, inflatable Nemo's, crocodiles etc which children of every nationality have discarded at the water's edge (oh and body boards esp when the waves are up)

It is indeed a very pleasant walk - but you won't set any world records unless you set out very early! LOL
Title: Kosmar
Post by: compage on September 09, 2007, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: George
... we are all Plakiasites here ...
george g...
The collective noun for users of this forum is 'Plakforms' George.  
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Chas on September 09, 2007, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: compage
Quote from: George
... we are all Plakiasites here ...
george g...
The collective noun for users of this forum is 'Plakforms' George.    

Quote from: jenny
....   Good plan if you have one leg longer than the other and can arrange to swap them round to walk back, or otherwise wish to see how quickly you can walk backwards. ...

Ah-ha!  That explains so much - plakform on the right foot going to the Far End and on the left foot for the return  
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Barny on September 09, 2007, 08:19:33 PM
So if you had two left feet, would you be wearing flip flips?

                                        Barny.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: jenny on September 09, 2007, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: Barny
So if you had two left feet, would you be wearing flip flips?

                                        Barny.

Someone we know pointed out to us some years ago now, that if you listen to someone starting to walk whilst wearing flip-flops, the actual sound made is actually 'flop-flip'.

So far we have not heard of any reasonable explanation as to why they should be named backwards.

So, please air your own hypotheses regarding this conundrum here.

Bottle of Mythos for the one that makes me laugh the most .......
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Noopsy on September 10, 2007, 03:39:19 PM
Quote from: compage
Quote from: George
... we are all Plakiasites here ...
george g...
The collective noun for users of this forum is 'Plakforms' George.  

...and we are that because we are such Plakophiles!
Title: Kosmar
Post by: compage on September 10, 2007, 04:19:24 PM
Title: Kosmar
Post by: jenny on September 10, 2007, 08:53:58 PM
Well as long as no-one calls us by (what I suppose would be) the generic term, Cretins, we'll be OK
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Noopsy on September 11, 2007, 03:25:23 PM
The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines a cretin as "Deformed idiot of a kind found esp. in Alpine valleys."   We're definitely safe there, jenny.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: George on September 11, 2007, 03:37:06 PM
Unless of course they live... in an Alpine Valley  

george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: George on September 19, 2007, 10:00:57 AM
Hi All

Is anyone else having trouble getting their tickets etc from Kosmar, or is this problem localised to this area?
Just been chatting to someone who is going to Stalis on Sunday and they were told that they would have to pick their tickets up at the airport. Their flight is 05.30am with XL so it's going to be a bit tight, they know others in the same predicament.

george g...
Title: Kosmar
Post by: Chas on September 19, 2007, 01:36:16 PM
Kosmar have had a "bad reputation" for ticket delivery for a few years.

The old excuse was that they had to wait on XL Airways issuing them before they could forward them.

However, when XL bought out Kosmar (last year), things were supposed to improve ..... and did .... in some cases.

Earlier this year. Kosmar/XL introduced a new IT ticketing system with the usual results for new IT systems and had to go back to the old manual system - think yourself lucky if the tickets arrive within 7 days of departure!

Right now, the IT system is back and working - we got our tickets, for next week, last week .... Wow! that's twice as good :'(

If there is a late-booking - less than 14 days to departure - it is "normal" to have to collect at airport.  Rules can vary with airport but I would say join the check-in queue and have some ID (like your passport   ) and ask the check-in agent to sort it.
Title: Kosmar
Post by: George on September 19, 2007, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: Chas
Kosmar have had a "bad reputation" for ticket delivery for a few years.

The old excuse was that they had to wait on XL Airways issuing them before they could forward them.

However, when XL bought out Kosmar (last year), things were supposed to improve ..... and did .... in some cases.

Earlier this year. Kosmar/XL introduced a new IT ticketing system with the usual results for new IT systems and had to go back to the old manual system - think yourself lucky if the tickets arrive within 7 days of departure!

Right now, the IT system is back and working - we got our tickets, for next week, last week .... Wow! that's twice as good :'(

If there is a late-booking - less than 14 days to departure - it is "normal" to have to collect at airport.  Rules can vary with airport but I would say join the check-in queue and have some ID (like your passport   ) and ask the check-in agent to sort it.
I got my tickets direct from XL, 4 weeks before departure, so who does one blame for the delays  

george g...