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Ostraco's Bar => Gossip => Topic started by: Jaffa on September 12, 2004, 01:18:49 AM
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I found this on the web and thought it might be of interest. Follow the link. I hope it works! Anyone fancy buying one and renting out in september I'm first in the queue. http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml (http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml)
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I found this on the web and thought it might be of interest. Follow the link. I hope it works! Anyone fancy buying one and renting out in september I'm first in the queue. [url]http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml[/url])
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just had a look at the link and cant really work out where they will put them all!
i think it will be a few years before the job is complete so time to start saving!
Does anyone think they might have problems with planning permission stuff ?
most of you are there at the moment in the heat not the cold wind we have today! so see what you can find out?
Barny.
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I found this on the web and thought it might be of interest. Follow the link. I hope it works! Anyone fancy buying one and renting out in september I'm first in the queue. [url]http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.progc.co.uk/gni_crete_plakias.shtml[/url])
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Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!
:'(
Will it be allowed?
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I'm not happy to see this either, as I don't believe it will enhance Plakias. I can't exactly work out where it will be though.
I don't have too much faith in Greek planning restrictions either.
Still, looking on the bright side there is plenty of space in the area one would have thought.
Mike
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I'm not happy to see this either, as I don't believe it will enhance Plakias. I can't exactly work out where it will be though.
I don't have too much faith in Greek planning restrictions either.
Still, looking on the bright side there is plenty of space in the area one would have thought.
Mike
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I agree. I think It would spoil Plakias. Seeing the north-east side of the Island when there were only a few villages/towns and Malia was covered in Banana plantations and then Rapidly grow in size in just a matter of a few years, you would've thought the Greeks had learnt their lesson . Keep Plakias traditional, I hope it doesn't turn into another Ag Nik!
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I'd also like to add that if this development brings profit to the locals (by creating more jobs and tourism) then that really is a good thing. However I hope it's not some greedy millionaire contractor aiming to make profit out of the locals-poor wages etc etc...
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When we were in plakias in May I asked a few of the locals about the proposed building on the front. Manolis from the Meltemi who now runs the beach bar knew there was going to be apartments built soon, but seemed to think it would be a few years before a big developement went ahead because of the cost of the land. From the looks of the plans on the website it looks pretty damned big to me! I know some of the locals including Yannis from Ostraco's would welcome the extra trade such a developement would bring and who could blame them. I just hope it won't destroy the fantastic atmosphere of the village. When we talked to Adonnis at Mousses you could tell he was a little concerned about any future developements on the front. He didn't want the place to lose its charm. I think its inevitable things will change eventually. Best make the most of it now, we're already planning our next trip. Anybody reading this in town say hello to Yannis(ostaco's) and Spiros Pipi(from Talos). Have a drink with Manolis at the beach bar and have a raki or three with the boys in Mousses. Also say hi to Ostraco. We met him in May and I've got a nice photo to prove it. I'll post it if I ever find out how to! ....Yammas
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When we were in plakias in May I asked a few of the locals about the proposed building on the front. Manolis from the Meltemi who now runs the beach bar knew there was going to be apartments built soon, but seemed to think it would be a few years before a big developement went ahead because of the cost of the land. From the looks of the plans on the website it looks pretty damned big to me! I know some of the locals including Yannis from Ostraco's would welcome the extra trade such a developement would bring and who could blame them. I just hope it won't destroy the fantastic atmosphere of the village. When we talked to Adonnis at Mousses you could tell he was a little concerned about any future developements on the front. He didn't want the place to lose its charm. I think its inevitable things will change eventually. Best make the most of it now, we're already planning our next trip. Anybody reading this in town say hello to Yannis(ostaco's) and Spiros Pipi(from Talos). Have a drink with Manolis at the beach bar and have a raki or three with the boys in Mousses. Also say hi to Ostraco. We met him in May and I've got a nice photo to prove it. I'll post it if I ever find out how to! ....Yammas
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Hear, Hear!!
Jaffa, if you have the photo on your computar ( I keep all mine in 'My Pictures' document on desktop) then posting is easy peesy!! When posting a reply or new topic , before you click on 'add reply' click 'browse' then choose the document you'd like click 'open' and then 'add attachment' and then 'add into post' finally 'add reply' Hope this works for you ( if not then...well.. Ihavn't a clue!! )
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When we were in plakias in May I asked a few of the locals about the proposed building on the front. Manolis from the Meltemi who now runs the beach bar knew there was going to be apartments built soon, but seemed to think it would be a few years before a big developement went ahead because of the cost of the land. From the looks of the plans on the website it looks pretty damned big to me! I know some of the locals including Yannis from Ostraco's would welcome the extra trade such a developement would bring and who could blame them. I just hope it won't destroy the fantastic atmosphere of the village. When we talked to Adonnis at Mousses you could tell he was a little concerned about any future developements on the front. He didn't want the place to lose its charm. I think its inevitable things will change eventually. Best make the most of it now, we're already planning our next trip. Anybody reading this in town say hello to Yannis(ostaco's) and Spiros Pipi(from Talos). Have a drink with Manolis at the beach bar and have a raki or three with the boys in Mousses. Also say hi to Ostraco. We met him in May and I've got a nice photo to prove it. I'll post it if I ever find out how to! ....Yammas
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I expected some building planns in that area...but also I had never seen anything of it yet. Has anybody found any other sites where they mention this project. I requested info on this project on this particular site...have not received any answer though....
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Has anybody found any other sites where they mention this project. (Paul).
You could try www.plakias.com (http://www.plakias.com), which I found by accident a couple of days ago.
Mike
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We returned last night from two weeks in Plakias during which we called in at Georgeopolis on the North coast, between Rethymno and Hania.
The heart of Georgeopolis is solid with cafes, trinket shops and estate agents and the surroundings are a desert of apartments like those planned here.
In my view, this is the beginning of the end for Plakias as we know it and it makes me depressed.
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It´s a nightmare! Maybe some officials of the Finikas area would be interested in the results of a quote like "Will you visit Plakias again if this plans come true?"
Who is the investor? Seems to be a British Company? Or is it the Alianthos-Group - then we may ask ourselves if we should frequent their hotels, car-rentals and "the train" in future...
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I just created my first poll! Unfortunately it is mis-located in "gossip" I hope youll find it.
Greecings
shinaria
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Marianne (of the Alianthos train) told us of a new development of apartment to be built at Souda (Sweetwater). Are these the same ones as mentioned on this site, or are there separate plans? Does anyone know?
Yvonne
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Definitely different. I've been interrogating the agent.
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Here's the photo of Ostraco I promised. I hope it works and I hope you had a great time in Plakias in September Ostraco. Thanks for the help Fraoula.
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Definitely different. I've been interrogating the agent.
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About the planned building, compage what can you tell me ? i asked twice for info but still no reply.
Barny.
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Barny, I assume you've been enquiring by email and received no reply?
That was my first method and I got no replies.
So I rang the agent and asked.
He says he's not replying to enquiries because he knows no more than is on the website.
It seems that the developer (in Athens) has not yet set anything in motion apart from appointing the agent and giving him the plans that are shown on the website.
No dates have been set for finishing or even starting the development.
I have my doubts that they have done anything more than that.
The website appears to be just a 'fishing' exercise to find out if there is any demand.
The agent is also pushing a site at Melame, west of Hania, which he says will be completed in 16 months.
He sent me a brochure but it is sorely lacking in detail.
Sound familiar?
Caveat emptor (Let the buyer beware) might be useful advice in my opinion.
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Barny, I assume you've been enquiring by email and received no reply?
That was my first method and I got no replies.
So I rang the agent and asked.
He says he's not replying to enquiries because he knows no more than is on the website.
It seems that the developer (in Athens) has not yet set anything in motion apart from appointing the agent and giving him the plans that are shown on the website.
No dates have been set for finishing or even starting the development.
I have my doubts that they have done anything more than that.
The website appears to be just a 'fishing' exercise to find out if there is any demand.
The agent is also pushing a site at Melame, west of Hania, which he says will be completed in 16 months.
He sent me a brochure but it is sorely lacking in detail.
Sound familiar?
Caveat emptor (Let the buyer beware) might be useful advice in my opinion.
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Thanks for that info, hope everyone else reads it too! cant say i didnt fancy a little place on the beach though!
Barny, I assume you've been enquiring by email and received no reply?
That was my first method and I got no replies.
So I rang the agent and asked.
He says he's not replying to enquiries because he knows no more than is on the website.
It seems that the developer (in Athens) has not yet set anything in motion apart from appointing the agent and giving him the plans that are shown on the website.
No dates have been set for finishing or even starting the development.
I have my doubts that they have done anything more than that.
The website appears to be just a 'fishing' exercise to find out if there is any demand.
The agent is also pushing a site at Melame, west of Hania, which he says will be completed in 16 months.
He sent me a brochure but it is sorely lacking in detail.
Sound familiar?
Caveat emptor (Let the buyer beware) might be useful advice in my opinion.
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Lets hope it is just a fishing exercise and no one takes the bait! At least with no firm starting date set we can hopefully enjoy a few more years of bliss. I for one hope the whole thing goes belly up!!! Thanks for the info please let me know if you find out more.
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oh my god! just looked at the link.. i had no idea that was planned. i new the alianthos want to knock down the meltemi for there five star hotel but not that. where exactly are they planning on putting it - meltemi end or soda end?????
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oh my god! just looked at the link.. i had no idea that was planned. i new the alianthos want to knock down the meltemi for there five star hotel but not that. where exactly are they planning on putting it - meltemi end or soda end?????
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Yep 'oh my god' about sums it up
It is planned for the far end way past Meltemi, down Paligremnos way. Check out Shinarias excellent photoshopping [a href=\"http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=436]here.[/url]
We'll just have to wait and see
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Has anyone news about this subject?
Has work started...
Being abscent last year [Nice trip to Cres / Croatia with kids and microbus] we think about destinations for our summervacation and - as you might guess -we would like to go to Plakias in July. Our fear is that it might not be so nice to share the place with all those noise, bulldozers and caterpillars. We would be very sorry to look for an other place but in this case we consider to go to Lentas or Loutro. Has anyone been there and can share experiences about ? [It sounds a little bit perverted as I read this words. Just like: Plakias destructed! - next one, please ]
So far the 2005 prayer...
yours sincerely
shinaria [k.a. the romantic armchair-rainbow-warrior]
Have a good time!
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Shinaria,
I have experienced Lentas and have seen Loutro so I will tell you what I know about them. Lentas (or Lendas) is a lot lot quieter and smaller than Plakias and more isolated. There are only about 5 or 6 small tavernas (without menus - they tell you what they have cooked today) and a couple of quiet bars in the village. It has a small beach. There are a few places with rooms, but no hotels or apartments with swimming pools.
There is a larger beach over a small headland. This is where the 'far-enders' go. There is camping on the beach and there is a taverna and a small amount of accommodation there.
There is one road out of Lendas that goes over the top of some hills before coming to any other civilisation. There is one bus a day from Iraklion, and it leaves Lendas at 06:30!
I've never stayed in Loutro but I've see it from boats. It is a very pretty village which can only reach by boat - there are no roads. There is only a small beach right in front of the buildings. I think you can walk to Sweetwater beach but it probably takes an hour - this is a "far ender"'s beach.
For something more like Plakias than either of these places, try Matala.
Greecemad.
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Hallo Greecemad,
thank you very much for your reply! Sounds nice. Does anybody know if there is a doc or a drugstore in Lendas [With our two little sons we were sometimes grateful to have them in plakias...]
Thanks
shinaria
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Shinaria,
There isn't a Pharmacy in Lendas - I think there was only one or two shops when I was there. It's very unlikely there's a doc as it's too small.
Greecemad
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Dear Community,
here is my twomonthly-news-about-the-new-buildings-request...
Has anybody noticed something going on there? Is the Meltemi still existing? Whatabout the "far End"? Is it "NO TOPLESS SWIMMING HERE"now? [ and how is to practise to enter the sea without head?] Strange things indeed...!
Hope we will meet plakias as it was in July if we succeed in trevelling the way down there with our old microbus....
Greeceings
Shinaria
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Hi Shinaria
Good news, meltemi is still there and they still have not started building. There are a few changes, the 'car park' by the Alianthos Hotels is being landscaped which will hopefully improve the approach to the village and the Mrytis Hotel at the back of the village is being excessivly extended, don't know when it will be finished.
The beach at the far end of the bay is still nudist by the family from Palegremnos have built a small beach bar just in front of the Taverna.
There are a few changes in the restuarants, the Tavernaki (which used to do mexican food) has been taken over by Nikos who used to serve in the Kafenion Yiallia over the last few years. And up in Mirthios Wolfgang no longer has Panorama but it is now run by Georgos who has worked there for years and the food and atmosphere is great.
Ali
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Just been on the blower to a friend (one of the locals) in P - he reckons that he knows the owner(s) of all the land around there and there's nothing planned.
the whole thing seems to be run under the umbrella of Mykra Ltd (who will do a property search for £450.00) who have s registered office near putney Bridge and there are several related sites - http://www. buyincyprus.co.uk - http://www.liveingreece.co.uk/ - http://www.learn-greek-fast.co.uk/
My take on the site is that its very amateurish with a hodge-podge of things from all over the place including "www.progc.co.uk offers you cheap flights and airfare deals all over the world." which seems to be an affiliate link to expedia, a link to greek tuition (which does not work), and a link to a bio-rhythms page. It simply does not have the feel of a serious large scale development company
The whole thing has the feel of a one man band (nothing wrong with that of course - I've run as a one man band contract programmer for nearly 30 years). The site appears to be UK based (apart from the obvious co.uk bit) and is registered to MR M P AXIOTIS of 43 Lambton Road London SW20 0LW GB.
up to now I've failed to get through to the number on the site
I know a few people who run sites like this - they offer certain basic services (in this case it could be greek lessons and a property search service) maintain the sites themselves and populate them with click-thru links affiliate links.
This leaves the question of the proposed development - and there are certain puzzles
1 - the cost per sq m of each of the 4 apartment types is between 2052.5 and 2052.9 E/sqm - I find it very strange that the cost per sqm is so close for apartments of such diffrent sizes
2 - i can't quite place where on the beach it is supposed to be - there seem to be 4 established buildings (the red, blue and white ones) which I can't place - also the triangular feature on the beach. Also none of the field marking match up with any maps I have
It's all very strange
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Hallo Dave, Ali, Paleo, coomunity
thank you very much for your detailed replies. Good to hear that those fatal plans have not been verified yet... Maybe we will be there in July... Shame for Wolfgang´s restaurant in Mirthios...we liked his delicious dishes with all those herbs and vegetables. Dost he leave just Mirthios or Crete or this world? And also a pitty for the mexicomaroccoan-grill!
Yours
shinaria
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And also a pitty for the mexicomaroccoan-grill!
Yours
shinaria
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yeah i was looking forward to trying that place