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Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Mike G on April 30, 2008, 01:06:48 PM
For several years I have bought € at the Post Office as they didn't charge commission and the rate was good. They are still commission free but the rate is now very poor. My bank (Barclays) is now commission free and offers a much better rate. On the day I bought € it was €1.1994 against €1.1741. With the recent decline in the value of the £ we need all the help we can get!

For those with a Nationwide credit card (which also charges no commission for purchases abroad) I found their rate (which is the commercial rate rather than the tourist rate) was about €0.07 better than buying € in the UK. If you do use a CC abroad make sure they charge you in €, because if they convert to £ the rate they use is likely to be poor.

This thread could also be used to share experiences of the ATMs in Plakias, should anyone wish to do so.

Mike
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: George on April 30, 2008, 01:18:45 PM
The 'Watchdog' programme on Monday this week I think highlighted some issues that I was concerned with regarding the use of Credit/Cheque cards being used abroad. Not that I use them that much.
The fact that the cards were being used in an 'unfamiliar fashion' meant that the companies were not paying out on the spot and numerous people were getting stranded without any funds. Evidently you now have to inform the bank and the milkman and the paperboy etc.   when your going away.

I'm one of the old school and still take traveller's cheques and cash, so I don't think I'll be changing my habits in the near future.  

george g...
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: harribobs on April 30, 2008, 11:25:54 PM
we had a very annoying episode in september, we had opened a HSBC PLUS account, one of it's features we liked was that you could withdraw cash from the account abroad with no charges, sounded good for us being away twice a year, so we stuck our spending money in there before we went away

that was until we actually tried to withdraw money, tried first at the town hall machine ( unable to complete your transaction at this time)  hmmmm  walked down to the next machine at the car hire place (unable to complete your transaction at this time) tried the next one, guess what and finally down to the Alianthos, same story.....

i had contacted HSBC and told them i was away but got on the mobile and spoke to a nice lady in india who didn't seem to know that Crete was in Greece, or that we were. After about 20 minutes she assured me it was all ok and i could get my money out now

you know what's coming don't you?

after another three attempts and four phone calls we gave up, luckily i was able to get money from other accounts

HSBC were very apologetic and did recompense us for a spoiled evening ( as did babis   )

Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: George on May 01, 2008, 08:18:22 AM
Plastic's alright, but you can't beat the real thing!!

george g...
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Mike G on May 01, 2008, 01:36:21 PM
re. Harribobs problem with ATMs, I am reluctant to use them in Plakias for fear (probably unwarranted) of not getting the card back. On a recent trip to Strasbourg I used my Nationwide credit card for all sorts of things (supermarket, meals, train, boat trip, airport shuttle bus, hotel, etc) at, as I have said, much lower cost than using cash. Has anyone experience of using CC's in Plakias (e.g. meals, supermarket)? I wonder what Ali and Dave's reaction would be if someone wanted to pay them with a CC.

Mike
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: harribobs on May 01, 2008, 02:47:39 PM
i've paid by credit cards in a couple of tavernas, Platiea in mythios and i can't remember t'others though
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Chas on May 01, 2008, 02:54:13 PM
Quote from: Mike G
... I wonder what Ali and Dave's reaction would be if someone wanted to pay them with a CC.

Mike
Been there, done that ... no problem.  However, if your are bulk buying tobacco-goods (or anything else with a low, fixed margin) you may be asked to pay something towards their card-processing cost - which is fair enough.

Dave will happily explain it all, if you ask at the counter.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Noopsy on May 06, 2008, 11:27:23 PM
Quote from: George
Plastic's alright, but you can't beat the real thing!!

george g...

Absolutely.  

As a matter of interest, my bank Lloyds TSB gave me a ROE of €1.2159/£ for cash, and €1.2128/£ for TCs, and no commission (on 29/4/2008).

Noopsy


Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on May 07, 2008, 07:21:58 PM
Well - each to their own. We've recently been on holiday. We changed up £150 to dollars at the Post Office because they were meant to give a good rate - $1.87 to the £. When we got to Cambodia and used our Nationwide debit card at ATMs we never got less than 1.97 and no commission. One day, no doubt my card will be swallowed by the hole in the wall but until then I'll use the Nationwide card whenever I can.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: les Deighton on May 16, 2008, 04:28:49 PM
Quote from: George
The 'Watchdog' programme on Monday this week I think highlighted some issues that I was concerned with regarding the use of Credit/Cheque cards being used abroad. Not that I use them that much.
The fact that the cards were being used in an 'unfamiliar fashion' meant that the companies were not paying out on the spot and numerous people were getting stranded without any funds. Evidently you now how to inform the bank and the milkman and the paperboy etc.   when your going away.

I'm one of the old school and still take traveller's cheques and cash, so I don't think I'll be changing my habits in the near future.  

george g...

Hello George,
We will be going to Plakias in June,and would like to know if when you change Euro Travellers Cheques if you are charged commission?.

Regard,

Les.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Noopsy on May 16, 2008, 07:09:31 PM
Invariably!  

Noopsy
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: George on May 19, 2008, 08:29:04 AM
Quote from: les Deighton
Hello George,
We will be going to Plakias in June,and would like to know if when you change Euro Travellers Cheques if you are charged commission?.

Regard,

Les.
Hi Les
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: les Deighton on May 19, 2008, 08:58:36 PM
Quote from: George
Quote from: les Deighton
Hello George,
We will be going to Plakias in June,and would like to know if when you change Euro Travellers Cheques if you are charged commission?.

Regard,

Les.
Hi Les
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...

Thank's for that,it really get's up my nose having to pay commission.

Regards,

Les.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on May 19, 2008, 09:24:55 PM
Quote from: les Deighton
Quote from: George
Quote from: les Deighton
Hello George,
We will be going to Plakias in June,and would like to know if when you change Euro Travellers Cheques if you are charged commission?.

Regard,

Les.
Hi Les
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...

Thank's for that,it really get's up my nose having to pay commission.

Regards,

Les.
While I agree that paying commission is a pain, you might find that if there's no commission to pay, the rate is lower so you might end up no better. Also, it's some time since we used TCs but I seem to remember that you pay a fee to get them. Although safer than cash, once in resort, the cash and cards go in a safety deposit box so we've not felt the need for TCs.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: George on May 20, 2008, 09:09:02 AM
Quote from: Graham_and_Karen
Also, it's some time since we used TCs but I seem to remember that you pay a fee to get them.
Depends on what account you've got G&K. I don't pay any fee to get them!
£100 of TC's = £100.  

george g...
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Noopsy on May 23, 2008, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: George
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...

You're lucky,George.  If I remember correctly the Alianthos always charged me commission even though my T/Cs were in Euros, and even though I was actually staying there.

Noopsy
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: greekblue on August 12, 2008, 08:50:55 PM
Quote from: Mike G
For several years I have bought € at the Post Office as they didn't charge commission and the rate was good. They are still commission free but the rate is now very poor. My bank (Barclays) is now commission free and offers a much better rate. On the day I bought € it was €1.1994 against €1.1741. With the recent decline in the value of the £ we need all the help we can get!

For those with a Nationwide credit card (which also charges no commission for purchases abroad) I found their rate (which is the commercial rate rather than the tourist rate) was about €0.07 better than buying € in the UK. If you do use a CC abroad make sure they charge you in €, because if they convert to £ the rate they use is likely to be poor.

This thread could also be used to share experiences of the ATMs in Plakias, should anyone wish to do so.

Mike

We went to Paros in June and I took €100 with me which I got from the Post Office at the pathetic rate of 119 to £. I then used my N/wide debit card to withdraw cash for the whole holiday and got between 127/129 to £ in Greece. Now, thanks to those who replied to my earlier query about ATMs in Plakias I'll take my leftover €s from June for the 1st day or so and draw all my cash there. If you use a N/wide credit card in an ATM you will get the same rate of exchange without any transaction charge but you will pay interest from the date you draw it out until you pay it off.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: John R on August 12, 2008, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: greekblue
If you use a N/wide credit card in an ATM you will get the same rate of exchange without any transaction charge but you will pay interest from the date you draw it out until you pay it off.

Might be a good idea to top the card up in advance with the amount of cash you intend withdrawing - then you won't pay any interest.

John R
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Mike G on August 13, 2008, 01:22:54 PM
Quote from: John R
Quote from: greekblue
If you use a N/wide credit card in an ATM you will get the same rate of exchange without any transaction charge but you will pay interest from the date you draw it out until you pay it off.

Might be a good idea to top the card up in advance with the amount of cash you intend withdrawing - then you won't pay any interest.

John R
Interesting John; do you know this works? I was under the impression that with a CC they charged interest from the withdrawal day under all circumstances. Fortunately I haven't had to use a CC for obtaining cash, but it is always useful to have in an emergency.

Mike
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: John R on August 13, 2008, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Mike G
Quote from: John R
Quote from: greekblue
If you use a N/wide credit card in an ATM you will get the same rate of exchange without any transaction charge but you will pay interest from the date you draw it out until you pay it off.

Might be a good idea to top the card up in advance with the amount of cash you intend withdrawing - then you won't pay any interest.

John R
Interesting John; do you know this works? I was under the impression that with a CC they charged interest from the withdrawal day under all circumstances. Fortunately I haven't had to use a CC for obtaining cash, but it is always useful to have in an emergency.

Mike

Yes, if you over pay a credit card so that your account is in credit rather than debt  - they won't give you any interest (except for Egg Money Mastercard) but when you spend against that credit bringing the credit down to say zero there is nothing for them to charge you interest on. This doesn't work of course if your card is permanently in debt for other reasons. They will then charge interest from day one on any debt when you use an ATM etc.

Egg Money mastercard is actually designed for this purpose in that they actually give you interest on any positive credit you have on that account and charge interest as per any other credit card when in debt. Other cards will actually work in the same way except they won't give you any interest on your positive credit. Most  (all ??) cards do charge a foreign currency transaction charge except for the now famous exception which is Nationwide. So the perfect answer is probably to top up a Nationwide card with positive credit before setting out.
 

John R
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Mike G on August 30, 2008, 02:19:52 PM
In April I reported that the exchange rate for € at the Post Office was markedly inferior to Barclays Bank (my bank) and both are commission free. The difference is even more marked now. LloydsTSB had an even better rate but was commission free for their customers only. In previous years I have found the PO to offer a good rate.

I have never changed money in Plakias. Is the rate better than in the UK and is commission charged? I would be reluctant to use an ATM in Plakias as I have heard too many examples of ATMs not working or "swallowing" the card and would prefer to keep cards for emergency use.

When in another Greek resort last summer I bought € at a Post Office and the rate was no better than that obtained in the UK, once commission had been taken into account. The speed of service was leisurely to say the least!

Mike
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on August 30, 2008, 03:48:22 PM
We only use ATMs but look at the rates when strolling along the front. Last year (so probably also this year) I'm certain the rates in Plakias were better than you could get in the UK but maybe someone who changes money in resort can confirm this.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: George on September 01, 2008, 10:33:05 AM
Quote from: Graham_and_Karen
We only use ATMs but look at the rates when strolling along the front. Last year (so probably also this year) I'm certain the rates in Plakias were better than you could get in the UK but maybe someone who changes money in resort can confirm this.
Will do, I was going to change some money last week at 118 so text Pete and Dawn who are out there now. It's flutuating a lot, 125 at one time, but only went down to 119 out there!

george g...
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Noopsy on September 05, 2008, 05:20:08 PM
Quote from: Noopsy 500
Quote from: George
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...

You're lucky,George. If I remember correctly the Alianthos always charged me commission even though my T/Cs were in Euros, and even though I was actually staying there.

Noopsy

George,

To check if my recollection was correct I've just changed E100 at the Alianthos, and they charged me 2 percent commission (whilst remaining "very agreeable").    So you must have PP status with them...

Noopsy
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: greekblue on September 25, 2008, 04:37:06 PM
Quote from: Noopsy 500
Quote from: Noopsy 500
Quote from: George
I usually take £-Sterling TC's and I usually change them in the Alianthos, I find the staff very agreeable  , and no they do not charge any commision  . The rate on the board is what you get!


george g...

You're lucky,George. If I remember correctly the Alianthos always charged me commission even though my T/Cs were in Euros, and even though I was actually staying there.

Noopsy

George,

To check if my recollection was correct I've just changed E100 at the Alianthos, and they charged me 2 percent commission (whilst remaining "very agreeable").    So you must have PP status with them...

Noopsy


I've just returned from Plakias and apart from taking some €s left over from our June holiday I only used my (Nationwide) debit card to obtain cash. As a result of my query on the forum when I established there were 4 ATMs along the front I used my card on several occasions (you can only draw €300 at a time) and never had any problems. There was an ATM only a few steps from where we were staying and although on 1 occasion it was empty I used another a little further down the road. On checking my account on return to the UK I found I was getting between €1.25/26 to the £, a much better rate than at home and no handling charge or commission. I've never had any difficulty with this method (touch wood) anywhere in Greece over the years.

greekblue
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on September 25, 2008, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: greekblue
I've just returned from Plakias and apart from taking some €s left over from our June holiday I only used my (Nationwide) debit card to obtain cash. As a result of my query on the forum when I established there were 4 ATMs along the front I used my card on several occasions (you can only draw €300 at a time) and never had any problems. There was an ATM only a few steps from where we were staying and although on 1 occasion it was empty I used another a little further down the road. On checking my account on return to the UK I found I was getting between €1.25/26 to the £, a much better rate than at home and no handling charge or commission. I've never had any difficulty with this method (touch wood) anywhere in Greece over the years.

greekblue

Same here - no problems, good rate and no charges. The ATM outside one of the car rental places had a notice saying that if the ATM swallowed the card to let them know in the office which implies that they could get the card back out of the machine or, at least, knew the procedure to get it back.
Title: Currency Issues 2008
Post by: Mike G on October 18, 2008, 03:01:32 PM
At the end of Sept I found "exclusive rate" coupons for Thomas Cook and Thomson online and printed them off. Thomson said it didn't give me a better rate than their rate on the day of 1.15€ per £!!! However, at TC their normal rate was also 1.15€ but the coupon entitled me to 1.21€. On the same day Barclays were offering just over 1.20€ and the Post Office (who used to offer a top rate) just over 1.17€.

Like Graeme I take € with a significant amount of £ plus two credit cards for emergency use.

Mike