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Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on February 19, 2011, 07:03:36 PM
There are some interesting photos on the Sfakia forum of today's storm in Crete.

http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/b...0211/index.html (http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/bettina/storm0211/index.html)

Many of the life boards from the Daskalogiannis ferry can be seen strewn around the harbour. Not too sure how good or safely stashed they would be for a storm at sea!
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on February 19, 2011, 08:09:30 PM
Quote from: Stuart & Hilary
There are some interesting photos on the Sfakia forum of today's storm in Crete.

[url]http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/b...0211/index.html[/url] ([url]http://www.sfakia-crete.com/sfakia-crete/bettina/storm0211/index.html[/url])

Many of the life boards from the Daskalogiannis ferry can be seen strewn around the harbour. Not too sure how good or safely stashed they would be for a storm at sea!


I spent quite a bit today watching the storm on the Sfakia harbour webcam - very impressive.

John R
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 20, 2011, 08:23:59 PM
You should see the pictures of Plakias!

            Barny.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on February 20, 2011, 09:01:43 PM
Quote from: Barny
You should see the pictures of Plakias!

            Barny.


Where ??
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 21, 2011, 09:23:13 AM
They have been put on facebook by someone who lives there, British,
I will get some for you to see, Its a weird sight!

                  Barny.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Robin Young on February 21, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
I had a phone call from a friend in Plakias yesterday and he told me that there had been a
big storm in Plakias. The beach bar has been badly damaged.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 21, 2011, 09:08:01 PM
[attachment=772:plak.jpg]

   Barny.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on February 21, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Quote from: Barny
[attachment=772:plak.jpg]

   Barny.

Thanks - bit small but I can see the mess
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 22, 2011, 08:35:47 AM
I will see if I can get more. There are about ten floating around on facebook. The water was upas far as the doctors surgery.

             Barny.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Greecemad on February 23, 2011, 08:44:50 PM
I found this photo on flickr:

www.flickr.com/photos/cretephotographsdotcom/5457844723/
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: George on February 24, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: Greecemad
I found this photo on flickr:

www.flickr.com/photos/cretephotographsdotcom/5457844723/
Does anyone know what this place was, Pete and I reckon it might be the Kyma or possibly the Alianthos?

george...
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on February 24, 2011, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: George
Quote from: Greecemad
I found this photo on flickr:

www.flickr.com/photos/cretephotographsdotcom/5457844723/
Does anyone know what this place was, Pete and I reckon it might be the Kyma or possibly the Alianthos?

george...


But is it Plakia or Plakias??

Stuart
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: George on February 24, 2011, 04:43:52 PM
Good point guys! There's a Plakia just north of Elounda!

george...
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on February 24, 2011, 05:09:10 PM
Quote from: George
Good point guys! There's a Plakia just north of Elounda!

george...


HOWEVER!! The next photo to it on Flickr does look like the Bay at Plakias although it is labelled Plakia. So I have probably caused unnecessary confusion.

Stuart
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Dave&Les on February 24, 2011, 05:42:56 PM
Quote from: George
Good point guys! There's a Plakia just north of Elounda!

george...

Just had text from Freddie confirming the road was in chaos & the water went as far as the Pharmacy....just waiting to find out which (if any) of the Taverna's have damage.

Dave&Les
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 24, 2011, 06:47:07 PM
[attachment=774:plak.jpg][attachment=773:plak2.jpg]


            Barny
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 24, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
[attachment=775:plak3.jpg]

      Barny
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Barny on February 24, 2011, 06:49:46 PM
[attachment=776:plak4.jpg]

         Barny
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Steve Jones on February 24, 2011, 08:09:14 PM
I had an email from Markos telling me that the restaurants at Mousses and Sofia were affected so I guess that all of the beachside restaurants have had water damage of some sort. They are all very vulnerable and exposed to a storm like this but I guess it happens once in a generation.

I wish them all the best and hope that the damage was not as bad as we fear.

Steve
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on February 28, 2011, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: Steve Jones
I had an email from Markos telling me that the restaurants at Mousses and Sofia were affected so I guess that all of the beachside restaurants have had water damage of some sort. They are all very vulnerable and exposed to a storm like this but I guess it happens once in a generation.

I wish them all the best and hope that the damage was not as bad as we fear.

Steve


This may be of interest,

www.west-crete.com/rain-white-mountains.htm


Stuart

Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Ploppy on March 01, 2011, 03:49:07 PM
Quote from: Stuart & Hilary
This may be of interest,

[url=http://www.west-crete.com/rain-white-mountains.htm]www.west-crete.com/rain-white-mountains.htm[/url]


Stuart


Very interesting to a weather buff like me.

Here is the Samaria Weather Stations page here (http://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/samaria/) run by the National Observatory of Athens.

They have other stations across Crete, see the map here. (http://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/chania/Crete.htm) Green onesare ones run by the National Observatory of Athens, blue are personal and yellow genrally airports. Closest to Plakias is Spili. Some like Paleochora, Falasarna & Chania have webcams.

So lets look at the 3rd of Feb which looked like one heck of a day (use pervious month link at bottom of the page):

Samaria

MEAN DEG DEG WIND DOMDAY TEMP HIGH TIME LOW TIME DAYS DAYS RAIN SPEED HIGH TIME DIR------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 4.4 6.2 10:10 1.3 21:40 13.9 0.0 264.0 18.0 80.5 9:50 SE

264mm of rain! Over 10 inches of rain!

Compare to Spili:

MEAN DEG DEG WIND DOMDAY TEMP HIGH TIME LOW TIME DAYS DAYS RAIN SPEED HIGH TIME DIR------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 10.7 12.2 18:30 8.9 23:30 7.7 0.0 48.8 9.0 56.3 10:00 W


Not nearly as impressive but still nearly 2 inches and beats my daily record :-(

Here is my back garden for comparison:

Paulies Garden:
 (http://www.ploppy.me.uk/Weather/wxclimate.php?date=climatedataout22011)

Have to see if I can get some sort of Crete vs Housnlow comparison page up on my website. Will make for depressing reading.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on March 02, 2011, 08:13:14 AM
Quote from: Ploppy
Quote from: Stuart & Hilary
This may be of interest,

[url=http://www.west-crete.com/rain-white-mountains.htm]www.west-crete.com/rain-white-mountains.htm[/url]


Stuart


Very interesting to a weather buff like me.

Here is the Samaria Weather Stations page here ([url]http://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/samaria/[/url]) run by the National Observatory of Athens.

They have other stations across Crete, see the map here. ([url]http://penteli.meteo.gr/stations/chania/Crete.htm[/url]) Green onesare ones run by the National Observatory of Athens, blue are personal and yellow genrally airports. Closest to Plakias is Spili. Some like Paleochora, Falasarna & Chania have webcams.

So lets look at the 3rd of Feb which looked like one heck of a day (use pervious month link at bottom of the page):

Samaria

MEAN DEG DEG WIND DOMDAY TEMP HIGH TIME LOW TIME DAYS DAYS RAIN SPEED HIGH TIME DIR------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 4.4 6.2 10:10 1.3 21:40 13.9 0.0 264.0 18.0 80.5 9:50 SE

264mm of rain! Over 10 inches of rain!

Compare to Spili:

MEAN DEG DEG WIND DOMDAY TEMP HIGH TIME LOW TIME DAYS DAYS RAIN SPEED HIGH TIME DIR------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 10.7 12.2 18:30 8.9 23:30 7.7 0.0 48.8 9.0 56.3 10:00 W


Not nearly as impressive but still nearly 2 inches and beats my daily record :-(

Here is my back garden for comparison:

Paulies Garden:
 ([url]http://www.ploppy.me.uk/Weather/wxclimate.php?date=climatedataout22011[/url])

Have to see if I can get some sort of Crete vs Housnlow comparison page up on my website. Will make for depressing reading.



Very impressive. A bit different to my occassional reading of the temperature and the odd diary record. Presumably 10" of rain in Hounslow would see it floating away!!






Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Mike G on March 02, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
I think I picked up a fact several years ago that Rhodes is the driest part of Greece, with an annual rainfall approximating to London. As London's is reasonably spread over the year and Rhodes' in the summer only, Rhodes is signifiacantly wetter than London in winter. The obvious conclusion from this is that all of Greece is substantially wetter than lowland England in the winter months; a good enough reason for there not being winter package holidays to Greece.

Mike
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on March 02, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: Mike G
The obvious conclusion from this is that all of Greece is substantially wetter than lowland England in the winter months; a good enough reason for there not being winter package holidays to Greece.

Mike

No sure about the above. I think that the heavy Crete rainfall is localised geographically (mountains) to a considerable extend. I have been looking at the Sfakia web cams every day since we departed Plakias in early October (anorak that I am !!!) and there has been virtually no rainfall between then and now at Sfakia. It has been warm and sunny almost continuously. Very different only a few miles away in the mountains. Indeed the temperatures up to late December were very pleasant indeed.  I would have happily spent a prolonged period of time there this winter. Maybe not warm enough at all times for far enders but perfect weather for nearly everything else. I think the South coast weather can be fairly reliable in Winter. However perhaps not reliable enough for many package tours but I do wish there were some direct flights available in Winter.

John
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Regulars since 1992 on March 02, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
Yes, it's a shame that Jet2 only fly to Crete from Leeds Bradford between mid May and late September, although I know the Newcastle end date is a bit later. Maybe things will change re LBA if demand is sufficient. I'm sure Jet2, like any business, is dictated to by the laws of supply and demand.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on March 02, 2011, 09:09:50 PM
Quote from: G&S
Yes, it's a shame that Jet2 only fly to Crete from Leeds Bradford between mid May and late September, although I know the Newcastle end date is a bit later. Maybe things will change re LBA if demand is sufficient. I'm sure Jet2, like any business, is dictated to by the laws of supply and demand.

Totally agree. Trouble is that supply and demand can be a bit like the chicken and egg conundrum !!!

John
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Regulars since 1992 on March 03, 2011, 08:07:09 AM
Yes, John, I was wondering just how Jet2 might be able to accurately assess potential demand without actually offering the flights for sale for at least a trial period. April ought to be a good bet for them, particularly when Easter falls in that month, and perhaps October too, but maybe flights between November and March might not sell enough seats to make them commercially viable.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: John R on March 03, 2011, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: G&S
Yes, John, I was wondering just how Jet2 might be able to accurately assess potential demand without actually offering the flights for sale for at least a trial period. April ought to be a good bet for them, particularly when Easter falls in that month, and perhaps October too, but maybe flights between November and March might not sell enough seats to make them commercially viable.

Yes - I suspect that their October flights from Newcastle may be a trial to test the viability of extending into that month at other airports. I would have thought that if viable from Newcastle then surely from other airports.
Title: Storm - Sfakia
Post by: Mike G on March 03, 2011, 02:07:52 PM
Quote from: John R
Quote from: Mike G
The obvious conclusion from this is that all of Greece is substantially wetter than lowland England in the winter months; a good enough reason for there not being winter package holidays to Greece.

Mike

No sure about the above. I think that the heavy Crete rainfall is localised geographically (mountains) to a considerable extend. I have been looking at the Sfakia web cams every day since we departed Plakias in early October (anorak that I am !!!) and there has been virtually no rainfall between then and now at Sfakia. It has been warm and sunny almost continuously. Very different only a few miles away in the mountains. Indeed the temperatures up to late December were very pleasant indeed.  I would have happily spent a prolonged period of time there this winter. Maybe not warm enough at all times for far enders but perfect weather for nearly everything else. I think the South coast weather can be fairly reliable in Winter. However perhaps not reliable enough for many package tours but I do wish there were some direct flights available in Winter.

John
OK, they have had a dry winter up until the recent storm, but the stats are over many years. Paul (Ploppy) knows about weather matters and I would be interested in his comments.

Mike