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« on: August 06, 2005, 06:07:10 PM »
THE VILLAGE, PLAKIAS, CRETE – June 2005

The people

Very helpful, no beggars/touts/hard sellers of timeshares, very child-friendly, almost always great customer service. There were enough tourists for the village to feel quite busy without being packed and they were predominantly from the UK, Germany and Czech Republic.

The Greek macho culture grates a bit though.

The facilities
 
Everything you could reasonably need – pharmacy & medical point, town hall, a travel & tour agent, supermarkets (5?)/a greengrocer/3 bakeries/a butcher, public phones (2?), 5 hotels/dozens (?) of small apartment blocks/youth hostel/camping site, arts/crafts/souvenir shops (4? – we recommend Natural Collection, Stadio Zorba & the one opposite Ariadne restaurant/taverna), 2 nightclubs, 2 (?) cashpoints, Laundromat, hairdressers, photographic shop.

Possible improvements: a centralised government-run tourist info centre, a good map of the village, more watersports and wider/flatter pavements.

The prices

As reasonable as expected - 1 starter, 2 main courses, 2 glasses of wine, a bottle of beer, bread & 2 Rakis were usually 20-25 Euros at restaurants/tavernas; cigarettes, alcohol, postcards, bus tickets, car hire, bottled water, local fruit & vegetables were also cheap.

Only specially imported things were dear, as you would expect.

The weather

Virtually cloudless, late 20s to mid 30s centigrade, windy at times.

Sometimes VERY windy – we even saw a small tornado!.

Beach etc

Very long beach (1+ km) which is sometimes narrow, “Blue” standard (i.e. clean & safe), long promenade follows the beach, average sand, cold sea, 2 (?) cold fresh water showers, sun umbrellas & sunbeds available at c5 Euros a day, separate naturist section (eastern end) and rocks at either end of the bay (good for snorkelling & for kids who like rock-pools).

A few possible improvements: wooden paths on the beach as the sand is often too hot to walk on , wind-breaks.

Development

No global multinationals like McDonalds, no high-rise buildings, seemingly slow expansion.

Some locals finding it hard to adapt to such quick change.

Activities

Apart from the beach (where you can swim, snorkel, sunbathe, play your own beach games, build sand castles and read) and restaurants/tavernas & bars, it is a great centre for walking (either along the longest gorge in Europe or shorter local walks – there is an excellent small book available), it has 2 (?) diving centres (we recommend Dive2Gether for their safety, friendliness & patience), live sport on TV in some bars, occasional street festivals and there are excursions available to many sights & activities elsewhere on the island (Minoan/Roman archaeological sites, beaches, caves, Santorini, lake).

Down-sides: it is quite a remote place so it can take 2-3 hours to travel to see some sights (more for Santorini) – we chose not to.

The access

Quite good for people with disabilities & the elderly (by Greek standards) as the village is flat, daily boats east & west down the coast, bus services to Rethymno (Crete’s 3rd city) & east, regular coach trips to most major sights/activities (see above), cars/cycles/scooters/ motorbikes/quad bikes to hire, a train (well a vehicle that looks like a train) that goes to a different attraction nearby everyday (donkey sanctuary/rare animal farm, waterfall, mountain villages, beaches, monastery – great view from Myrthios, a local village in the mountains).

Other

Great location (nice shaped bay with impressive small mountains surrounding it), pretty safe in terms of crime (though sometimes Greek males were over-persistent with female tourists) and good mobile phone reception.

Down-sides: Depressingly hard to find the traditional culture, no market, health & safety standards are lower than in the UK (like the UK in the 60s?), police station is nearly an hour away and it is 2-3 hours transfer time from the airports (worth it to get there though!).

For eating & drinking & accommodation – see separate posts.

All in all, Plakias is very much recommended!

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2005, 08:37:47 PM »
ukplakias,

A very informative account of the the facilities in Plakias. You must spend your holiday noting everything that there is.

One or two comments:

What boat trips are there to the west? I didn't know there were any.

You won't find anything like a government-run tourist office anywhere in Greece, other than perhaps in Athens.

Until very recently, there wasn't any need for wide, flat pavements - one simply walked along the road. It's general in Greece though that pavements are not for walking on - they are for placing other things on like kiosks, chairs, tables, trees, bikes, advertising signs, etc.

Maps: I possess a sheet from MotoAutoPlakiasClub that has a map of the area from Frangokastello to Aghios Pavlos at 1:50,000 on one side, a map of the area from Souda Beach to Skinaria Beach at 1:7000 on the other side and a blow-up (1:3000?) of the village centre. This is probably the best I have seen. There is certainly no map published by the Community.

Greecemad
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2005, 12:01:46 PM »
Lefteris who has the two yellow boats runs a trip once a week (weather permitting) to the west.

You stop for coffee in Loutro and then continue to the bottom of the Aradena Gorge where you stop for three hours.  It is possible to walk for 15 mins or so up the gorge in sandals and well worth checking it out.  You would need proper walking boots to go further.  Or you can just laze on the beach (stony) or hang out in the small taverna.  After leaving the gorge you head east to the an isolated hotel (can't remember name) where you can have a meal (option to include in ticket or just order when you get there).

I did this trip twice last year, once with Ploppy and Marge and again towards the end of the season with some aussies (Annette and Louise for those you know them).  It is an excellent day out the scenery is stunning, Lefteris is a good host and there is usually wine or juice served on the boat.  

On my second trip we were lucky enough to see a pod of dolphins (very rare on the south coast) and a sea turtle.

If anyone is interested in going you can get more information or tickets from either Smerna or the small supermarket along from Smerna.

Ali

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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2005, 12:50:12 PM »
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ukplakias,

A very informative account of the the facilities in Plakias. You must spend your holiday noting everything that there is.

One or two comments:

What boat trips are there to the west? I didn't know there were any.

You won't find anything like a government-run tourist office anywhere in Greece, other than perhaps in Athens.

Until very recently, there wasn't any need for wide, flat pavements - one simply walked along the road. It's general in Greece though that pavements are not for walking on - they are for placing other things on like kiosks, chairs, tables, trees, bikes, advertising signs, etc.

Maps: I possess a sheet from MotoAutoPlakiasClub that has a map of the area from Frangokastello to Aghios Pavlos at 1:50,000 on one side, a map of the area from Souda Beach to Skinaria Beach at 1:7000 on the other side and a blow-up (1:3000?) of the village centre. This is probably the best I have seen. There is certainly no map published by the Community.

Greecemad
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Thanks!

I always write a page a day in a holiday journal while I'm away and we took quite a few dozen photos - it was then quite a simple matter to spend an hour or 2 writing it up on our return. I've got a good memory, too!

Your question about trips west has already been answered. "Captain" Lefteris at Smerna Bar is a friendly interesting character so the bar made a nice stopping off point for a drink or 2. By the way, he also does trips to the island to the south (the most southerly point in Europe?), whose name I forget!

Yes, I know tourist offices don't really exist in Greece - I just think it would be more efficient if they did (comprehensive & unbiased information instead of partial & influenced information?).

As for wider, flatter pavements, the issue is one of health & safety.

Your map sounds interesting - maybe it would be helpful to scan it and attach it?

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2005, 08:31:56 PM »
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Your map sounds interesting - maybe it would be helpful to scan it and attach it?

The whole sheet would be too big to scan. It folds up small, but opened out is about A2 size and double-sided. I have tried to scan the part that shows the village, but the result is not very good.

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« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2005, 10:41:27 PM »
Hi, is anyone aware of the weather in late October. We do plan a 10 days stay with kids and not sure about the weather and open facilities, tavernas, places to go. Thanks.

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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2005, 11:59:48 PM »
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Hi, is anyone aware of the weather in late October. We do plan a 10 days stay with kids and not sure about the weather and open facilities, tavernas, places to go. Thanks.
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We stay till mid October and the Weather has always been ok - just the occasionally rainy day. Last year after we left it remained quite hot till well into November (I understand) However you can get some wet days at that time of year. Usually warm during the day but might start to get noticebly cooler in the evenings. We were eating out till we left. Most places, tavernas etc will remain open till end of season (end of October). It can be an excellent time to go as long as the weather holds up.

John R

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2005, 10:25:29 AM »
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"Captain" Lefteris at Smerna Bar is a friendly interesting character so the bar made a nice stopping off point for a drink or 2. By the way, he also does trips to the island to the south (the most southerly point in Europe?), whose name I forget!

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That would be Gavdhos.  Whether it's the most southerly point in Europe depends whether you count Cyprus and the Canary Islands as part of Europe.

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2005, 06:58:03 PM »
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Possible improvements: a centralised government-run tourist info centre, a good map of the village, more watersports and wider/flatter pavements.




Development

No global multinationals like McDonalds, no high-rise buildings, seemingly slow expansion.

Some locals finding it hard to adapt to such quick change.

Down-sides: Depressingly hard to find the traditional culture, no market, health & safety standards are lower than in the UK (like the UK in the 60s?), police station is nearly an hour away and it is 2-3 hours transfer time from the airports (worth it to get there though!).


 Interesting and informative account from ukplakias,
 I don't know about anyone else but I would have to say on the improvement side watersports would be the last thing I would want to see in Plakias, they're noisy and simply dangerous. Having just come back from holiday in Greece and visiting the nearest beach to our accommodation which had a wide range of watersports I don't rate them too highly, especially when you witness an accident involving them.

Has the Police station in Plak Shut? ( was above and between Tasomanolis and glaros) that's a shame we knew all the officers that worked in there!( even though it was only open about two hours a day!  
 
Hey I think we'd all agree on that one, definitely worth the two hour trip from the airport!!  

Would forum members agree that the problem with the British is that we are becoming too ''Americanised''  in the way that we want everything here and now. Why must our culture exist around commercialism? If you commercialise, tradition is left behind...
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2005, 07:50:11 PM »
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Hey I think we'd all agree on that one, definitely worth the two hour trip from the airport!!  

Would forum members agree that the problem with the British is that we are becoming too ''Americanised''  in the way that we want everything here and now. Why must our culture exist around commercialism? If you commercialise, tradition is left behind...
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I'm reluctant to generalise on us Brits but I'm 99% certain that most of the active forum members don't fall into that category especially with respect to Plakias. I didn't before read carefully what UKplakias said and was rather horrified to read it when you requoted it.  Plakias - and any such similar places - would not hold any attraction to me if it was in any way "sanitised". I would simply stay at home.

The moment, for the sake of argument, that  it goes in the direction of  (quote) centralised government-run tourist info centre, watersports and wider/flatter pavements,  multinationals like McDonalds, high-rise buildings, faster expansion and an ability to adapt to quick change, stupid EEC type health & safety standards etc. etc. etc. - then I'm not returning. We don't normally travel anywhere on the basis that we like it at home (very quiet, rural and isolated). Returning year after year to Plakias is one big exception to our normal way of life. We like Plakias as it is and cannot imagine anywhere else quite like it..

John R

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2005, 09:44:14 PM »
yip i agree, the minute mcdonalds turns up i'm out of there.  i'm one them that if you want what you've got at home, stay at home. There shouldn't be a problem with high rises though - they cant build over 2 levels high, its a law or something.

in my opinion plakias has changed at the right speed for the right reasons - ukplakias should have been there 17 years ago when there was no edge of the road never mind a crash barrier going through the gorge - no tarmac from the alianthos all the way down passed the meltemi and there was an hour between every course at meal times with the usual power cuts every night, and no sun beds or umberellas on the beach never mind water sports...........but it didn't stop me going back,  the wee changes i've seen are fine thats the kinda pace i can cope with
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2005, 10:31:10 PM »
I'm with John and Sheryl on this one,

they have said it all ( and very eloquently.)

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2005, 12:49:35 AM »
 
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I'm with John and Sheryl on this one,

they have said it all ( and very eloquently.)
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I`m with John and Sheryl and harribobs on this one ....

Cecile

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2005, 08:36:19 AM »
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I'm with John and Sheryl on this one,

they have said it all ( and very eloquently.)
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I`m with John and Sheryl and harribobs on this one ....

Cecile
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We like Plakias because it's Plakias, why else would this site exist. Plakias really hasn't changed much in the last 20 years, let's hope it stays that way.
In total agreement with all comments.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2005, 01:15:38 PM »
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I don't know about anyone else but I would have to say on the improvement side watersports would be the last thing I would want to see in Plakias, they're noisy and simply dangerous.
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Totally agree that watersports at Plakias would be detrimental. Those wishing them can go to Damnoni. They are dangerous, in countries like Greece anyway where safety standards are much lower than the UK's, and intrusive.

The pace of change in Plakias is pleasingly slow and the place hasn't significantly changed in the 10 years I have known it. Long may that remain the case.

Mike