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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 12, 2005, 11:26:56 AM
there are certain times when you really need that beer, coming off the beach on a hot day, at the end of hard days walking (or in the middle)

so which one do you go for?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rodger on September 12, 2005, 11:32:14 AM
another dilemma: which first after a day at the beach, cold beer or shower?

of course if there's a fridge in your accommodation you can do both at once
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 12, 2005, 11:47:12 AM
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another dilemma: which first after a day at the beach, cold beer or shower?

of course if there's a fridge in your accommodation you can do both at once
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We cannot wait that long!
To end a beach day:
A last dive in the sea, a cold shower on the beach, a cold draught Mythos in the beachbar and watch the sundown makes our day.

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It is not me on the picture (In case anyone objects I will remove it)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 12, 2005, 11:53:20 AM
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We cannot wait that long!
To end a beach day:
A last dive in the sea, a cold shower on the beach, a cold draught Mythos in the beachbar and watch the sundown makes our day.
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we usually make it to the Ostraco and sit out by the beach witha cold bottle of Mythos

(and watch the horizon tilting  )
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 12, 2005, 09:06:15 PM
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another dilemma: which first after a day at the beach, cold beer or shower?

of course if there's a fridge in your accommodation you can do both at once
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We cannot wait that long!
To end a beach day:
A last dive in the sea, a cold shower on the beach, a cold draught Mythos in the beachbar and watch the sundown makes our day.
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Got the feeling again?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 13, 2005, 01:22:25 PM
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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 13, 2005, 01:25:23 PM
We found an interesting article (with Plakias and Myrthos in it) about Greek beers.
We are going to try them out any way  next time in Greece as we go for local drinks and dishes anyhow.


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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 13, 2005, 01:38:54 PM
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We found an interesting article (with Plakias and Myrthos in it) about Greek beers.
We are going to try them out any way  next time in Greece as we go for local drinks and dishes anyhow.
Beachcombers

The Souvlakia House (The Hut) sells "black" beer from the Rethymnon brewery. See here. (http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?act=faq&article=31)
Very good but much more expensive than Mythos and not so suitable to the ambience/climate of Plakias in my opinion. However at home I would never drink the Mythos/Amstel type of beers. You can't beat real ale, can you?

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 13, 2005, 02:50:34 PM
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We found an interesting article (with Plakias and Myrthos in it) about Greek beers.
We are going to try them out any way  next time in Greece as we go for local drinks and dishes anyhow.
Beachcombers

The Souvlakia House (The Hut) sells "black" beer from the Rethymnon brewery. See here. ([url]http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?act=faq&article=31[/url])
Very good but much more expensive than Mythos and not so suitable to the ambience/climate of Plakias in my opinion. However at home I would never drink the Mythos/Amstel type of beers. You can't beat real ale, can you?

Mike
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It is all a matter of personal taste I found a beer forum with 24950 different beers reviewed. I suppose there are good and bad ales as well. I do not think I am going to sample all of them. My personal experience local drinks taste better in their own local ambience. In the UK I prefer to drink UK draught beers. Etc.
Beachcomber/M
Beachcombers
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on September 13, 2005, 11:44:16 PM
Beer.  AAH- a most satisfying drink.  

The pic in this tread is great, it makes me thirsty, and makes me dream . . . But it features a level horizon that only can be achieved by supporting the camera on the bar   (my experience)

In Greece I drink Amstel. Since it's brewed in Greece I consider it a local beer. Am I wrong? When I travel I always try out the local stuff, and normally I find something I like.



Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 14, 2005, 09:51:34 AM
I knew this thread would be a good idea, already i have got two new brews to seek out next year

The black beer sounds very interesting, (an IPA style  mmmm,) as do the Craft Brewery beers

Thomas, I don't know the answer to your question, Stella Artois is now brewed in the UK but isn't a shadow of the original, i suppose it's Greek beer, where does Amstel come from originally?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on September 14, 2005, 10:07:53 AM
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I knew this thread would be a good idea, already i have got two new brews to seek out next year

The black beer sounds very interesting, (an IPA style  mmmm,) as do the Craft Brewery beers

Thomas, I don't know the answer to your question, Stella Artois is now brewed in the UK but isn't a shadow of the original, i suppose it's Greek beer, where does Amstel come from originally?
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Amstel is originating from Amsterdam
A city at a dike (dam) in Holland alongside a small river the Amstel.
Heineken is originating from Amsterdam as well.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 14, 2005, 10:33:28 AM
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Amstel is originating from Amsterdam
A city at a dike (dam) in Holland alongside a small river the Amstel.

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i suppose i should have realised that  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 14, 2005, 10:58:38 AM
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I knew this thread would be a good idea, already i have got two new brews to seek out next year
The black beer sounds very interesting, (an IPA style  mmmm,) as do the Craft Brewery beers
Hello Chris,

I'm surprised you didn't try it in May this year. I know you went to the Souvlakia House as you wrote a review (one of the "few"). Maybe the Medousa's raki was more appealing! The "black" beer isn't black like Guinness but, as I say, brown like a bottled IPA (remember John Courage in the 60s/70s, or are you too young?). The black beer really stands out in Greece where almost all the beers are what we would call lagers at home.

I agree that local beers and foods are best in Greece (and anywhere I guess). e.g taramosalata, Mythos/Amstel.

Although I voted for Mythos I would be pushed to tell the difference between it and Amstel.  Could you distinguish them? Both are brewed in Greece I think.

There used to be other Greek beers like Fix and Henniger that I never see now.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rodger on September 14, 2005, 11:25:59 AM
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There used to be other Greek beers like Fix and Henniger that I never see now.

Mike
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good grief, I remember Fix from way back.

showing your age a bit there Mike.  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 14, 2005, 11:32:08 AM
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I'm surprised you didn't try it in May this year. I know you went to the Souvlakia House as you wrote a review (one of the "few"). Maybe the Medousa's raki was more appealing! The "black" beer isn't black like Guinness but, as I say, brown like a bottled IPA (remember John Courage in the 60s/70s, or are you too young?). The black beer really stands out in Greece where almost all the beers are what we would call lagers at home.

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Hi Mike

we always make for the souvalaki house when we arrive late (and a few other times as well) but i went for the Mythos I'd been dreaming about since getting on the plane!  

we don't (or didn't)  really get a lot of southern beers like courage up in the north but i do know what an IPA is like. My favourite pub has it's own brewery and making a magnificent IPA along with many others

[a href=\"http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/marble%20beers.html]Marble Arch[/url]
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 14, 2005, 12:23:43 PM
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Beer.  AAH- a most satisfying drink.  

The pic in this tread is great, it makes me thirsty, and makes me dream . . . But it features a level horizon that only can be achieved by supporting the camera on the bar   (my experience)

  The trick: avoid horizons


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avoid horizons...... :'(
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on September 14, 2005, 01:35:35 PM
I do agree with Mike G., I do like Mythos but can only handle about 4 or 5 then lager becomes a bit watery. I'm a real ale/bitter man, if you see what I mean.

Best beer of the day? After a long hard day on the far end beach then straight to Antonis Place.

What about Bertina, available in the Panorama in Mythios??
george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 15, 2005, 09:40:25 AM
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What about Bertina, available in the Panorama in Mythios??
george g...
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  I missed that one, it doesn't seem to be as popular as it was a few years ago

not dis-similiar to Alpha?

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I do like Mythos but can only handle about 4 or 5 then lager becomes a bit watery

we tend to drink wine in the evening, with and after our meal, the mythos does fill me up too much
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 15, 2005, 04:52:03 PM
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Marble Arch ([url]http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/marble%20beers.html[/url])
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Marble Arch brewery looks interesting and its good to see that in spite of the best (or worst) efforts of the major brewers, real ale breweries, including micros, are flourishing and the latter are springing up all over the place.

I'm not quite sure of the significance of the beers being vegan. With the possible exception of finings (which not all brewers use) I can't see what there is in beer which would not meet a vegan's requirements. I make beer at home and there is nothing in it derived from an animal.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 15, 2005, 05:02:56 PM
I can seriously recommend their beers, the IPA is my favourite but i've been known to have the odd pint of Chocolate Heavy, a sort of bournville guinness and the Ginger beer is quite refreshing and different

as for them being vegan   i really wouldn't know but always wondered what these people use

sheep (http://www.blacksheepbrewery.com/)    

or these  woof (http://www.synthesys.co.uk/brewing/)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on September 16, 2005, 06:23:07 PM
This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  

Living in Norway with its very high alcohol prices reduces quite effectively the enjoyment of beer, but like all norwegians I compensate for this every time I go abroad.    

When in GB I prefer to drink Guinnes stout. I have also  tasted some really good ales, and I have a question to you who sit on the expertise: what is the difference between Real Ale and Pale Ale?
   
Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rodger on September 16, 2005, 10:20:06 PM
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When in GB I prefer to drink Guinnes stout. I have also  tasted some really good ales, and I have a question to you who sit on the expertise: what is the difference between Real Ale and Pale Ale?
  
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I'm not claiming to be expert so I'll quote some people who do.

The term "Real Ale" was invented by a pressure group called the Campaign for Real Ale (CAMRA): here's a definition from their website www.camra.org.uk

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Real ale is beer brewed from traditional ingredients, matured by secondary fermentation in the container from which it is dispensed, and served without the use of extraneous carbon dioxide.

Real ale is also known as 'cask-conditioned beer', 'real cask ale', 'real beer' and 'naturally conditioned beer'.


Pale ale is a particular style of beer; there's also India Pale Ale, Light Ale, Brown Ale and so on, you can read definitions at the website of Michael Jackson (no, not that one): [a href=\"http://www.beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html]http://www.beerhunter.com/beerstyles.html[/url]


Hope this helps.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on September 17, 2005, 12:39:02 AM
Thanks Rodger

I would not trust (that) Mickael Jacksons judgement on anything as vital as beers. This might biased, but.....  

Great link, I just spent about an hour on the site and enjoyed every minute.   Theory is good, but can't beat real thing, so I am glad I am booked in for two weeks at University of York in spring. Day time pursuits will be all academic, but  the evening activities are more on the practical side.  


Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 17, 2005, 10:14:32 AM
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This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  

Living in Norway with its very high alcohol prices reduces quite effectively the enjoyment of beer, but like all norwegians I compensate for this every time I go abroad.   
Tom
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Hello Tom,

As alcohol is very expensive in Norway is it possible to make your own? Although considered in the UK these days as a rather "anoraky" thing to do (i.e. unfashionable, carried out by a rather dull person) I still make beer, but at high strength (10-11% ABV). One pint is plenty for me. If you can't buy a kit locally then bring some back from York. It's really easy.

In the 1960's-1980's making beer and wine at home was fashionable in the UK but not any more. However you can still buy kits or there are always the base ingredients.

I can offer you assistance online if required.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 17, 2005, 10:43:14 AM
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This tread has now taken on a life of its own, and is wandering into the delightful landscape of the beers of the world. Great.  
Tom
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For those in the UK, Wetherspoons now have a wide range of bottled lagers of the world (Polish, Turkish, Mexican, Czech, etc, etc). Mind you, I'll stick to their excellent real ales.

Mike
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Post by: toma2 on September 17, 2005, 02:50:08 PM
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As alcohol is very expensive in Norway is it possible to make your own? Although considered in the UK these days as a rather "anoraky" thing to do (i.e. unfashionable, carried out by a rather dull person) I still make beer, but at high strength (10-11% ABV). One pint is plenty for me. If you can't buy a kit locally then bring some back from York. It's really easy.

Ah, yes we are allowed to make our own beer and wine at home, and at any given time there vill be something fermenting in 1 out of 5 households in Norway. The quality of the products is normally not very high, often due to the impatience of the brewer.

Prices of liquor are far more out of proportion with the rest of the world than beer and wine, so about every second home has a still making crude, and highly illegal spirits from a fermented sugar, yeast and water mixture. Again the quality is often poor because of the afore mentioned impatience. If you ever had bad, yeast-smelling raki, you'll know what I'm talking about.  

I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 17, 2005, 08:07:22 PM
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I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.

Tom
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I've had some really good homebrew in the past maybe not up to Mikes 10-11% though

I was wondering if we have anyone in the York area to aim Thomas at the best local ales?

on a different theme i have discovered that Asda of all places does a good selection of belgium beers ( i have a few here tonight that i may well be having a taste of ....  )
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 19, 2005, 10:33:42 AM
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I will be looking at the beer kits in York, and carry one home in my anorak breast-pocket.
Tom
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I've had some really good homebrew in the past maybe not up to Mikes 10-11% though
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Don't mistake quality for strength Chris. I just prefer it that way, but I find they are more reliable at higher strength. A microbiologiest could explain why.

For Tom, I buy kits at Wilkinson (Wilko) although there isn't a branch in York. See their website for the nearest. [a href=\"http://www.wilko.co.uk/stores]Wilkinson's stores.[/url] Other than that a specialist home brew/wine making shop, although there aren't many of them these days. Maybe someone else can help.

Re. distillation, I wouldn't go there. You can easily concentrate any methanol or other toxics in the process and this could make you go blind or other nasty things. You would need to monitor the product with expensive equipment (gas chromatograghy) or be very experienced in distillation. You are unlikely to poison yourself with homemade beer or wine if it went wrong; it just wouldn't be palatable.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on September 19, 2005, 11:06:54 PM
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For Tom, I buy kits at Wilkinson (Wilko) although there isn't a branch in York. See their website for the nearest. Wilkinson's stores. Other than that a specialist home brew/wine making shop, although there aren't many of them these days. Maybe someone else can help.

Re. distillation, I wouldn't go there. You can easily concentrate any methanol or other toxics in the process and this could make you go blind or other nasty things. You would need to monitor the product with expensive equipment (gas chromatograghy) or be very experienced in distillation. You are unlikely to poison yourself with homemade beer or wine if it went wrong; it just wouldn't be palatable.

Thanks Mike

I appreciate the info. I'll have time to find what I'm looking for.  And don't worry about me getting poisoned, I stay away from the homemade booze. (Unless it is called Raki and served by a Cretan   )

Aah - - I just remembered the the name of my favorite Swiss beer = Rugenbrau. Back in the 80s i spent a few winters skiing in the alps. Relaxing with a pint after skiing was part of the experience. A bit like the bottle(s) of Amstel while waiting to get into one of the two showers at Philipos hostel in Plakias. With a slight difference in temperature though.  

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 20, 2005, 01:34:12 PM
Hello Tom (Toma2).

When in York there are two Wetherspoon pubs. You can search their website for the exact locations. Click here. (http://www.jdwetherspoon.co.uk/) There you will find their new selection of bottled beers of the world plus (I'm guessing, from other Wetherspoon pubs) 6-8 real ales, many local to York. Wetherspoons are one of the cheapest chains of pubs in the UK and their beer is usually in excellent condition and served at the right temperature (12-14C?).

There is even a small (real ale) brewery in York. They do guided tours and a tasting. Click here. (http://www.yorkbrew.demon.co.uk/)

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on September 20, 2005, 03:41:55 PM
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Don't mistake quality for strength Chris. I just prefer it that way, but I find they are more reliable at higher strength. A microbiologiest could explain why.

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I am getting to like stonger beers these days, i think it odd that the major british breweries can't make strong beer without losing all the flavour and making it taste so disgusting sweet

Mike I've had strong homebrews that actually still retained their 'ale' flavour, i assume that's the effect you go for
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on September 21, 2005, 10:53:43 AM
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Mike I've had strong homebrews that actually still retained their 'ale' flavour, i assume that's the effect you go for
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Hello Chris,

You are correct. When I first started well over 30 years ago I bought the loose ingredients (malted barley, hops, etc). However, as time pressures became more significant I went over to kits, which are much less labour intensive.

These days I buy a 5 gallon bitter kit and make it up to 3 gallons only (thus concentrating the flavour) and add sufficient sugar to obtain the required alcoholic strength. Beer yeast will ferment to 10-11% without too much trouble so there is no residual sweetness.

Re. the "black" beer in the Souvlakia House in Plakias, by all means try it as a novelty. However, I suspect that, like me, you will think Mythos suits the ambience of Plakias much better and is cheaper. In fact, I personally nearly always drink the local house carafe wine in Greek tavernas.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Graham_and_Karen on September 21, 2005, 12:23:12 PM
Having just come back from Plakias and tried them all, I voted for Alpha although most of the time I was drinking Mythos as it's more widely available. Not on the list but worth a mention is Zorbas. The draught Mythos was very good but we noticed a few bars serving draught in 400ml measures rather than 500ml and not always indicating the size on the menu (the taverna by Damnoni beach).
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Post by: harribobs on September 21, 2005, 10:57:52 PM
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Re. the "black" beer in the Souvlakia House in Plakias, by all means try it as a novelty. However, I suspect that, like me, you will think Mythos suits the ambience of Plakias much better and is cheaper. In fact, I personally nearly always drink the local house carafe wine in Greek tavernas.

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i will certainly have a taste of the black beer, but when we stumble into the souvalaki house late on that first night, i'll most likely order a mythos first  

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serving draught in 400ml measures rather than 500ml

WHAT!!   questions will be asked in the house!  actually i should have added another couple of alternatives....bottled or draught,

i prefer my mythos in bottles  

i assume you two had a good time...i look forward to hearing about it
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Post by: toma2 on September 23, 2005, 12:20:30 AM
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There is even a small (real ale) brewery in York. They do guided tours and a tasting. Click here.

Mike

Had a look at York Brewery and found out that they sell their products at 3 pubs at the university. This means that I can try out the ales without bothering my logistics department too much.


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These days I buy a 5 gallon bitter kit and make it up to 3 gallons only (thus concentrating the flavour) and add sufficient sugar to obtain the required alcoholic strength. Beer yeast will ferment to 10-11% without too much trouble so there is no residual sweetness.

I think 10-11 % is to much for me, as I like the taste better than the buzz.  Looking back, I have not tasted extra strength beer since those days when (and this very long ago) making girls loose some of their inhibitions was the main objective of the evening.  

In Plakias I also prefer the open house wine with my evening meal. It usually goes really well with the food.

Tom
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Post by: harribobs on September 25, 2005, 01:38:16 AM
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  Looking back, I have not tasted extra strength beer since those days when (and this very long ago) making girls loose some of their inhibitions was the main objective of the evening.  

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   trying to keep her awake is more of a challenge these days
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Post by: toma2 on September 27, 2005, 11:34:09 PM
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  Looking back, I have not tasted extra strength beer since those days when (and this very long ago) making girls loose some of their inhibitions was the main objective of the evening.  

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   trying to keep her awake is more of a challenge these days
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Good one Chris

I see Amstel is catching up a bit in the poll. It is time for all Amstel drinkers to come out from where ever you are hiding and bring the prosentage to where it belongs.

Tom
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Post by: harribobs on September 28, 2005, 09:36:37 PM
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I see Amstel is catching up a bit in the poll. It is time for all Amstel drinkers to come out from where ever you are hiding and bring the prosentage to where it belongs.

Tom
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No Tom, Mythos is in an unassailable lead now I reckon.........

( Unless a representative of Amstel wants to bribe me   )
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rodger on October 02, 2005, 05:53:20 PM
A mini-quiz for all you beer bores  

The other night I enjoyed a bottle of the only Trappist beer brewed in the Netherlands.

What was I drinking?
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on October 02, 2005, 07:12:07 PM
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A mini-quiz for all you beer bores   

The other night I enjoyed a bottle of the only Trappist beer brewed in the Netherlands.

What was I drinking?
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La Trappe  
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Post by: Rodger on October 02, 2005, 07:57:09 PM
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La Trappe 
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Correct!  Not many folk outside Holland (or even Brabant) know this...
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Post by: Barny on October 02, 2005, 09:53:33 PM
Guess this one then.

Its in a black and white tin with a lions head on it, its 4.1% and you get eight for a fiver at my local shop and i only have one left!

                                  Barny.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Sebbee on October 02, 2005, 10:58:19 PM
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Beer.  AAH- a most satisfying drink.  

The pic in this tread is great, it makes me thirsty, and makes me dream . . . But it features a level horizon that only can be achieved by supporting the camera on the bar   (my experience)

In Greece I drink Amstel. Since it's brewed in Greece I consider it a local beer. Am I wrong? When I travel I always try out the local stuff, and normally I find something I like.

[attachment=168:attachment]  The trick: avoid horizons

Tom
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Nothing to do with beer but where are these apartments that the photo was taken? Myrthios? Nice view (apart from the clothes pegs!)
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Post by: Rodger on October 03, 2005, 11:06:31 AM
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Guess this one then.

Its in a black and white tin with a lions head on it, its 4.1% and you get eight for a fiver at my local shop and i only have one left!

                                  Barny.
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You got me there Barny, but it's interesting how many beers are associated with lions and other wild beasts: Lowenbrau, Singha, Everards Tiger, Tiger beer from Malaysia (?) as immortalised by Anthony Burgess, and so on.
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Post by: Barny on October 03, 2005, 04:32:51 PM
HaHa, Fooled you all, Its a can of Carling black label !

                         Barny.
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Post by: LoukaFran on October 03, 2005, 09:07:50 PM
Sebbee, if I am not mistaken the photo with the pegs was taken from Manolia Apartments in Plakias
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Post by: toma2 on October 03, 2005, 11:36:23 PM
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Nothing to do with beer but where are these apartments that the photo was taken? Myrthios? Nice view (apart from the clothes pegs!)

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Sebbee, if I am not mistaken the photo with the pegs was taken from Manolia Apartments in Plakias

Quite right.   It's shot from the top floor balcony at Manolia. As for the pegs, they definitely belong in the picture, even though they proved to weak to prevent the meltemi from taking off with a couple of towels. Thinking about it, the pegs should probably have been replaced by a glass or two containing cold Amstel, this is after all a beer tread.  

Tom
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Post by: harribobs on October 04, 2005, 03:54:22 PM
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Sebbee, if I am not mistaken the photo with the pegs was taken from Manolia Apartments in Plakias
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that's pretty clever to recognise an apartments by the pegs

now that must be a product of good beer!  

Second point

I've been down in the south west over the last couple of days and have nothing good to report about the beer down there at all    

I am sure there must be few good uns hiding or is it all scrumpy?
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Post by: LoukaFran on October 04, 2005, 07:08:51 PM
 thanks harribobs, we do come from a beer country.... allthough I do like
 Scrumpy and all the other varieties.  The problem is that we have to go to a
 special British store to buy cider as it is not very popular here.  Cider is
 considered here as a drink for children. I must add that the cider on sale here is
 often this awfull stuff like cider with a peachy or strawberry flavour. Really
 horrible !
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Post by: harribobs on October 06, 2005, 09:36:09 AM
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thanks harribobs, we do come from a beer country.... allthough I do like
 Scrumpy and all the other varieties.  The problem is that we have to go to a
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have you ever drunk the proper scrumpy tho?

the stuff i've had was cloudy, not sweet at all but very very strong, i'd guess at around 10% but as it was made on a farm, there was no way of knowing...except by the effect!      

i wouldn't be giving it to children!  
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Post by: Ploppy on October 06, 2005, 10:00:43 AM
Good old scrumpy, being a West Country lad I've had lashings of the stuff.
Can't say its my favourite drink although I did stick with Addlestones (a cloudy strong cider, not quite scrumpy though) for a while at Uni, a state of inebriation occurs rather quickly and cheaply, perfect for a student
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Post by: Rodger on October 06, 2005, 07:49:02 PM
Thought folk might be interested in this Eurostar promo:

"Collect four passwords from the Telegraph starting Saturday 8th October, and you can get two Eurostar tickets for the price of one"

An incentive to sample Belgian beers in their native habitat.

Of course it means actually buying the Telegraph ...
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Post by: toma2 on October 06, 2005, 11:34:24 PM
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I am sure there must be few good uns hiding or is it all scrumpy? sick.gif

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Good old scrumpy, being a West Country lad I've had lashings of the stuff.
Can't say its my favourite drink although I did stick with Addlestones (a cloudy strong cider, not quite scrumpy though) for a while at Uni, a state of inebriation occurs rather quickly and cheaply, perfect for a student grin.gif

SCRUMPY????????  

To my my norwegian ears it sounds like a liver disease :'(  

My Oxford Advanced Dictionary of Current Brews offers "scrumptious" as the only possible explanation. Is that where it comes from?

Tom
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on October 07, 2005, 08:18:06 AM
A 'scrump' is a small withered apple. Scrumpy comes from this, as does the term 'scrumping'.
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Post by: harribobs on October 07, 2005, 09:12:41 AM
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SCRUMPY????????  

To my my norwegian ears it sounds like a liver disease :'( 

My Oxford Advanced Dictionary of Current Brews offers "scrumptious" as the only possible explanation. Is that where it comes from?

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It's a rough string cider Tom, more usually made by farmers than brewers

It's an aquired taste....
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Post by: toma2 on October 08, 2005, 12:58:10 AM
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A 'scrump' is a small withered apple. Scrumpy comes from this, as does the term 'scrumping'.
Thanks.  The norwegian word "skrump" probably has the same root and means shrunken or shrink. Paired with liver it means cirrhosis of the liver.    Scary association for a cider.  

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It's an aquired taste....

I see....    makes me think of my neighbors rhubarb wine.....
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Post by: harribobs on October 09, 2005, 10:30:07 PM
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I see....    makes me think of my neighbors rhubarb wine.....
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rhubarb wine...hmmmm

that made me think of Belguim's Rodenbach beer, which has an 'unusual' flavour and an aquired taste
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Post by: sunseeker on October 15, 2005, 05:46:46 PM
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There used to be other Greek beers like Fix and Henniger that I never see now.

Mike
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good grief, I remember Fix from way back.

showing your age a bit there Mike.  
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Hi,

I'm new to this forum.  Spent 7 days in Pefkos Rhodes in September.  I found Mythos really refreshing at lunchtime in the beach cafe, but I preferred Amstel in the evenings, not sure why, seemed a bit smoother.  I thought it was Belgian?

Funny how I enjoy lager in Greece, because I can't stand it in England, I'm a real ale man.  Must be the heat.

   
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Post by: harribobs on October 16, 2005, 10:49:07 AM
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I'm new to this forum.  Spent 7 days in Pefkos Rhodes in September.  I found Mythos really refreshing at lunchtime in the beach cafe, but I preferred Amstel in the evenings, not sure why, seemed a bit smoother.  I thought it was Belgian?

Funny how I enjoy lager in Greece, because I can't stand it in England, I'm a real ale man.  Must be the heat.

  
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welcome to the forum sunseeker

real ale and greek sun just don't seem to go together, do they  

i now know that Amstel was originally a Dutch beer, but i'm pretty sure the greek version is made in greece

Pefkos is just over the headland from Lindos ,IIRC
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Post by: Rodger on October 16, 2005, 09:09:21 PM
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real ale and greek sun just don't seem to go together, do they 

oddly enough, IPA was originally brewed to be shipped out to the troops in India - hence the name India Pale Ale ...
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Post by: harribobs on October 17, 2005, 12:56:45 PM
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oddly enough, IPA was originally brewed to be shipped out to the troops in India - hence the name India Pale Ale ...
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well i never knew that, i wonder how much was shipped out?, that's a hell of a long way to send beer
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Post by: beachcombers on October 17, 2005, 02:03:47 PM
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oddly enough, IPA was originally brewed to be shipped out to the troops in India - hence the name India Pale Ale ...
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well i never knew that, i wonder how much was shipped out?, that's a hell of a long way to send beer
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Hodgon's secret recipe to ship ale to India.
Ao 1750 around 1500 barrels  
Ao 1800 around 9000 barrels  

Brits have always been a thirsty lot?  
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Post by: Mike G on October 17, 2005, 02:16:08 PM
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Hi,

I'm new to this forum.  Spent 7 days in Pefkos Rhodes in September.  I found Mythos really refreshing at lunchtime in the beach cafe, but I preferred Amstel in the evenings, not sure why, seemed a bit smoother.  I thought it was Belgian?

Funny how I enjoy lager in Greece, because I can't stand it in England, I'm a real ale man.  Must be the heat.
I like to think I have a reasonably discerning palate for real ale, and although I enjoy Greek beers in Greece I'm not sure I could distinguish Amstel, Mythos, or Alfa in a blind tasting. I suspect I'm not the only one in truth.

Amstel is Dutch although brewed for the Greek market in Athens.

On to retsina. In Lesvos, Retsina Malamatina in 0.5L. bottles is widely availably in tavernas and shops but I don't recall it being available in the southerly islands such as Crete. It is made in Thessaloniki, Greece's second city in the north of the country. I find some retsinas too bland for my palate, but not Malamatina.

Mike
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Post by: sunseeker on October 17, 2005, 07:37:56 PM
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I'm new to this forum.  Spent 7 days in Pefkos Rhodes in September.  I found Mythos really refreshing at lunchtime in the beach cafe, but I preferred Amstel in the evenings, not sure why, seemed a bit smoother.  I thought it was Belgian?

Funny how I enjoy lager in Greece, because I can't stand it in England, I'm a real ale man.  Must be the heat.

  
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welcome to the forum sunseeker

real ale and greek sun just don't seem to go together, do they  

i now know that Amstel was originally a Dutch beer, but i'm pretty sure the greek version is made in greece

Pefkos is just over the headland from Lindos ,IIRC
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Hi Harribobs,

Yes that's where Pefkos is.  I'm told that Plakias now is how Pefkos used to be a few years ago, before the stag and hen parties found it.  We enjoyed ourselves, but it was hard to find a bar that didn't have football on TV and 80's music blaring loud.  I wouldn't go in a bar like that in England, so why on holiday?

I'd like to meet a few Greek people who aren't trying to sell me something.  Is Plakias like that?
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Post by: harribobs on October 17, 2005, 09:45:35 PM
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Yes that's where Pefkos is.  I'm told that Plakias now is how Pefkos used to be a few years ago, before the stag and hen parties found it.  We enjoyed ourselves, but it was hard to find a bar that didn't have football on TV and 80's music blaring loud.  I wouldn't go in a bar like that in England, so why on holiday?

I'd like to meet a few Greek people who aren't trying to sell me something.  Is Plakias like that?
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Doesn't sound like the Pefkos i knew!

Plakias has got a nice mix of bars and tavernas, there are some loud bars but it's never a 'stag and hen' type place ( and long may that continue) most nights i'm happy to stay in the taverna all night

As for them selling you something, no plakias isn't like that  
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on October 18, 2005, 08:28:43 AM
We've been to Pefkos twice (6 and 4 years ago) and has a good time on both occasions. It was slightly busier than Plakias but small and friendly. We've recommended it to others thinking of going to Rhodes so I hope it hasn't been spoilt in the last few years.
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Post by: Mike G on October 18, 2005, 01:15:30 PM
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As for them selling you something, no plakias isn't like that 
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Harribobs is right but I would go even further and say that it is quite rare for Greeks to be pushy in trying to do business. Exceptions would be the waterside tavernas in Rethymnon or Mykonos or a few shops in Rhodes Town. That's one of the many nice things about Greece, unlike Turkey or Tunisia.

Mike
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Post by: Mike G on October 19, 2005, 02:56:47 PM
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I find some retsinas too bland for my palate, but not Malamatina.
Mike
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Does anyone else find some of the retsinas bland or is it just me? I like a real "pine resin" bite to them. Need to be served well chilled, which they usually are.

Mike
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Post by: sunseeker on October 19, 2005, 04:02:57 PM
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We've been to Pefkos twice (6 and 4 years ago) and has a good time on both occasions. It was slightly busier than Plakias but small and friendly. We've recommended it to others thinking of going to Rhodes so I hope it hasn't been spoilt in the last few years.
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See this forum:

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We saw someone unconscious at one bar, and the hotel we stayed in sold alcohol to a very young person who had to be carried out by his friends.  One night we were kept awake by a stag party in the hotel bar.

I must emphasise that we still had a good time, but I think the rot is starting to set in.  Lindos and Lardos were not like that at all.

Don't get me wrong, I've had plenty of drunken nights myself, but didn't go to Pefkos for them, as I was told it was quiet.

(How to complain without sounding like a kill-joy?)
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Post by: sunseeker on October 19, 2005, 04:17:04 PM
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Harribobs is right but I would go even further and say that it is quite rare for Greeks to be pushy in trying to do business. Exceptions would be the waterside tavernas in Rethymnon or Mykonos or a few shops in Rhodes Town. That's one of the many nice things about Greece, unlike Turkey or Tunisia.

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I didn't mean they were pushy, I meant I'd like to have a drink with a Greek person and a chat.  I didn't meet any in Pefkos who weren't waiters, barpeople or shopkeepers.  Interestingly, the two Greeks we did get into conversation with had returned from Melbourne and Inverness!  One was over gyros in Rhodes New Town, the other in a taxi from Lardos.  It was very strange talking to Greeks with Aussie and Scottish accents.  Both of them were very friendly.

I think the problem with Pefkos is that there's not much there except tourist development.  When you go to normal towns you start to meet local people.

I certainly did not mean to criticise Greek people, as I found (most of) them very friendly and helpful.

 
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Post by: harribobs on October 19, 2005, 07:38:56 PM
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Does anyone else find some of the retsinas bland or is it just me? I like a real "pine resin" bite to them. Need to be served well chilled, which they usually are.

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to be honest Mike I have not tasted enough to have an opinion, Mandy doesn't like it at all, so we always get standard wine, not that thats a chore  
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Post by: harribobs on October 19, 2005, 07:49:23 PM
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See this forum:

[url]http://groups.msn.com/FriendsofPefkosRhode...541134580347956[/url] ([url]http://groups.msn.com/FriendsofPefkosRhodes/holidayreviews.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=8591&LastModified=4675541134580347956[/url])

We saw someone unconscious at one bar, and the hotel we stayed in sold alcohol to a very young person who had to be carried out by his friends.  One night we were kept awake by a stag party in the hotel bar.

I must emphasise that we still had a good time, but I think the rot is starting to set in.  Lindos and Lardos were not like that at all.

Don't get me wrong, I've had plenty of drunken nights myself, but didn't go to Pefkos for them, as I was told it was quiet.

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Wow..just had a look at that forum and the comments, and its a bit frightening. I wonder (and strongly suspect) that it's the Faliraki influence. Someone has seen another town which can make money the same way  

Most of us on the forum like a drink but a drink in Plakias is more like having a laugh with friends
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Post by: sunseeker on October 19, 2005, 09:34:11 PM
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See this forum:

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We saw someone unconscious at one bar, and the hotel we stayed in sold alcohol to a very young person who had to be carried out by his friends.  One night we were kept awake by a stag party in the hotel bar.

I must emphasise that we still had a good time, but I think the rot is starting to set in.  Lindos and Lardos were not like that at all.

Don't get me wrong, I've had plenty of drunken nights myself, but didn't go to Pefkos for them, as I was told it was quiet.

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Wow..just had a look at that forum and the comments, and its a bit frightening. I wonder (and strongly suspect) that it's the Faliraki influence. Someone has seen another town which can make money the same way  

Most of us on the forum like a drink but a drink in Plakias is more like having a laugh with friends
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Thanks Harribobs,

That's what I wanted to hear.  We'll be booking up for our first visit to Plakias (and Crete) next year.

 
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Post by: harribobs on October 20, 2005, 09:14:30 AM
I think you'll enjoy it   ,

in the mean time feel free to ask any questions you want, the forum (unlike myself) is very knowledgable and friendly
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Post by: harribobs on October 23, 2005, 04:54:36 PM
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we don't (or didn't)  really get a lot of southern beers like courage up in the north but i do know what an IPA is like. My favourite pub has it's own brewery and making a magnificent IPA along with many others

Marble Arch ([url]http://www.marblebeers.co.uk/marble%20beers.html[/url])
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having popped in my favourite pub for a quick pint of IPA this afternoon, i am very pleased to report they now have a a stock of Belgium beer to hand as well!!  

talk about being spoilt for choice
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Post by: BobandLynne on November 17, 2005, 10:30:42 AM
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We found an interesting article (with Plakias and Myrthos in it) about Greek beers.
We are going to try them out any way  next time in Greece as we go for local drinks and dishes anyhow.


Beachcombers

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I wrote the article in Pints West but unfortunately it is out of date. The bar in Myrthios has removed Craft beer from the menu and the Sky Restaurant in Rethimnon have stopped because the price was raised such that they would need to charge over six euros for a glass. However it is still available fairly widely in Athens and is good quality although expensive. I can recommend the bar next to the pet shop in the Town Hall Square about 100 metres from Omonia and a small bar on the edge of Iroon Square near Monasitaki. Bob.
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Post by: beachcombers on November 17, 2005, 12:30:51 PM
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We found an interesting article (with Plakias and Myrthos in it) about Greek beers.
We are going to try them out any way  next time in Greece as we go for local drinks and dishes anyhow.


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I wrote the article in Pints West but unfortunately it is out of date. The bar in Myrthios has removed Craft beer from the menu and the Sky Restaurant in Rethimnon have stopped because the price was raised such that they would need to charge over six euros for a glass. However it is still available fairly widely in Athens and is good quality although expensive. I can recommend the bar next to the pet shop in the Town Hall Square about 100 metres from Omonia and a small bar on the edge of Iroon Square near Monasitaki. Bob.
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Thank you Bob, we will cross it out from things to do in Plakias 2006.   We have a few Mythos in stead.   We donot think Craft beer is worth a de-tour via Athens as our flight is a direct one to Chania / Heraklion.  
Cheers
NB Good article any way!  
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Post by: Rodger on November 17, 2005, 01:15:38 PM
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having popped in my favourite pub for a quick pint of IPA this afternoon, i am very pleased to report they now have a a stock of Belgium beer to hand as well!!   

talk about being spoilt for choice
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I'm not convinced there is such a thing as a "quick pint".  I popped into the pub for "just the one" after work last night and managed to leave 3 hours and four and a half  pints of IPA  later.
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Post by: Barny on November 19, 2005, 04:31:24 PM
Yes, I had a "quick" pint one day, then two days later i got home! we say we can't drink all day in UK but there is always a way! Luckily those days are behind me!

                                             Barny.
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Post by: harribobs on November 22, 2005, 02:11:33 PM
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I wrote the article in Pints West but unfortunately it is out of date. The bar in Myrthios has removed Craft beer from the menu and the Sky Restaurant in Rethimnon have stopped because the price was raised such that they would need to charge over six euros for a glass. However it is still available fairly widely in Athens and is good quality although expensive. I can recommend the bar next to the pet shop in the Town Hall Square about 100 metres from Omonia and a small bar on the edge of Iroon Square near Monasitaki. Bob.
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welcome to the forum Bob

shame about the craft beer
 

Mythos it is then  
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Post by: harribobs on November 29, 2005, 01:47:05 PM
My wife has just brought me back some Chrisstofel beer from Holland, so I'm lookinf forward to trying them tonight  
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Post by: beachcombers on November 29, 2005, 03:17:56 PM
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My wife has just brought me back some Chrisstofel beer from Holland, so I'm lookinf forward to trying them tonight 
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0.33 ltr / 2.0 ltr bottle ?

Cheers anyway.
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Post by: toma2 on November 29, 2005, 04:37:07 PM
Every december norwegian breweries  make christmas beer. Nice, dark and malty, and according to tradition supposed to go well with fatty foods and Aqua Vita (akevitt). They give us exactly four weeks to figure out which one is best.  

The tasting is on!  HO HO HO

 

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Post by: harribobs on November 30, 2005, 10:06:16 AM
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0.33 ltr / 2.0 ltr bottle ?

Cheers anyway.
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1 33cl blond and 1 33cl dark and a nice glass to drink them from!

i had the dark one last night, but I'm saving the blond for tonight  (
   sounds like more fun than just a beer)

(leaflet etc both arrived yesterday thanks Leen)

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Every december norwegian breweries make christmas beer. Nice, dark and malty, and according to tradition supposed to go well with fatty foods and Aqua Vita (akevitt).

aqua vita is a spirit/liquer isn't it Tom?
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Post by: toma2 on November 30, 2005, 03:00:34 PM
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aqua vita is a spirit/liquer isn't it Tom?

Yes, from Latin = Water of life.

The Norwegian variety "Akevitt" is made from potatoes, spiced with caraway seeds and stored in oak casks onboard ships that sail between Norway and Australia. Every cask is suposed to cross the equator at least twice. It acquires a nice golden colour. Many Norwegians have a shot or two with their christmas eve dinner. The bottle should be stored in the freezer for 12 hours before it is served, and drunk before the temperature rises to 0 C.        Do not ask...... it is just tradition.

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aqua vita is a spirit/liquer isn't it Tom?

Yes, from Latin = Water of life.

The Norwegian variety "Akevitt" is made from potatoes, spiced with caraway seeds and stored in oak casks onboard ships that sail between Norway and Australia. Every cask is suposed to cross the equator at least twice. It acquires a nice golden colour. Many Norwegians have a shot or two with their christmas eve dinner. The bottle should be stored in the freezer for 12 hours before it is served, and drunk before the temperature rises to 0 C.        Do not ask...... it is just tradition.

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Tom
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No wonder liquer is expensive in Norway!  
Beachcombers
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 15, 2005, 11:33:08 PM
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aqua vita is a spirit/liquer isn't it Tom?

Yes, from Latin = Water of life.

The Norwegian variety "Akevitt" is made from potatoes, spiced with caraway seeds and stored in oak casks onboard ships that sail between Norway and Australia. Every cask is suposed to cross the equator at least twice. It acquires a nice golden colour. Many Norwegians have a shot or two with their christmas eve dinner. The bottle should be stored in the freezer for 12 hours before it is served, and drunk before the temperature rises to 0 C.        Do not ask...... it is just tradition.

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Tom
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never knew that!!

not even sure i've ever tasted it either but quite fancy a shot now  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 15, 2005, 11:36:14 PM
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i had the dark one last night, but I'm saving the blond for tonight

hmmm sorry Leen, the christoffel didn't match leffe in my opinion.......maybe i need more samples
 
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rodger on December 16, 2005, 08:27:53 AM
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aqua vita is a spirit/liquer isn't it Tom?

Yes, from Latin = Water of life.


As an aside: the word "whisk(e)y" derives from the Gaelic usquebaugh, which also means "water of life".
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on December 16, 2005, 10:30:16 AM
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i had the dark one last night, but I'm saving the blond for tonight

hmmm sorry Leen, the christoffel didn't match leffe in my opinion.......maybe i need more samples
 
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We will be looking at some other samples in "Quinten Matsijs" Antwerp this weekend. Does it sounds familiar to you?

Beachcombers
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 16, 2005, 04:38:55 PM
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We will be looking at some other samples in "Quinten Matsijs" Antwerp this weekend. Does it sounds familiar to you?

Beachcombers
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   I know it's a bar!  ( thank god for google) but it's been thirty years since I was last in Antwerp

i could fancy a nice beer right now...mmmmm
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: LoukaFran on December 16, 2005, 08:53:44 PM
Beachcombers and Harribobs we are locals and also know F & F.

It might be nice to meet sometime in Antwerp (I must warn you that the weather is dreadfull at the moment, rain, wind, cold.... , but I expect that must also be so in England and Walcheren in the Netherlands ? )

I am amazed that you would know the Quinten Matsijs, it is not particulary easy to find...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 18, 2005, 08:59:35 PM
I see, i would love a visit to Antwerp but i don't know when we'll be over, hopefully we get a visit to Flanders in the New Year

you are right, the weather in the UK is the same, cold, windy and lots of rain  

i only found the Quinten Matsijs through a google search, I don't think I have ever been there, but i'm always happy to try a new pub!     No doubt beachcombers are recovering from their visit

I have added a new belgium beer to my knowledge this weekend, Kwak!  very nice it was as well
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on December 18, 2005, 09:57:46 PM
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Beachcombers and Harribobs we are locals and also know F & F.

It might be nice to meet sometime in Antwerp (I must warn you that the weather is dreadfull at the moment, rain, wind, cold.... , but I expect that must also be so in England and Walcheren in the Netherlands ? )

I am amazed that you would know the Quinten Matsijs, it is not particulary easy to find...
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Hi LoukaFran,
We were at   "Quinten Matsijs" last Friday ± 16:00,  a bit too early and found the place quite empty    therefore decided to go a bit further and had a few Leffe blondes  at  "t 'Miniatuurske" had dinner in "t'Hofke"and ended in "'van Beveren". with a lot of "bollekes"
I think we know our way in Antwerp.
Looking forward to meet you in some pubs in Antwerp similar to above mentioned two pubs .
NB Harribobs,
It is really a once in life time experience if you are fully open to other people's life!

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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 19, 2005, 05:21:35 PM
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NB Harribobs,
It is really a once in life time experience if you are fully open to other people's life!

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Beachcombers
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Is that you in the picture Leen? you never told us that you can sing  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: LoukaFran on December 19, 2005, 08:08:55 PM
Nice photo ! Cafe Beveren is very well known for the atmosphere.

I am surprised you can buy Kwak over there Harribobs.

I expect you did not drink it in the long tall glas with the wooden holder ?

It's a very tricky way of drinking beer. Either you do not manage to get a sip or else you get the whole lot over you...

A warning: because of the fact that the beerglass and wooden holder are so special the tradition used to be that when you ordered a Kwak you had to give one of your shoes as a deposite. This shoe would only be given back when you returned the glass and holder. Your shoe would be put in a sort of fishingnet and would be raised up to the ceiling so that you could not reach it.   In some cafés this tradition still exists !!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 19, 2005, 09:17:20 PM
I was very surprised myself to find the shop myself, it is in the south of the city where i don't go very often, they are selling belgium specialities...including beer

they must have had 30 or so beers, mostly christmas specials but Leffe ( which I have found a good place to buy cheaply, not is shop) also Orval and a few others I had heard of

they were selling Kwak gift set with a very strange glass, but we could not work it out, mandy thought it would be better for putting flowers in

great story about the shoe and the net !  I think i have GOT to get one of those glasses now  ( and some kwak to drink from it   )
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 19, 2005, 09:19:46 PM
ah ha!!!

(http://www.truebeer.com/ProductImages/beer-glasses/belgian-beer-glasses/kwak-glass.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: LoukaFran on December 20, 2005, 08:51:33 PM
 Congratulations ! Just the glass you need Harribobs.

Have you already tried to drink from it ?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 20, 2005, 11:20:00 PM
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Congratulations ! Just the glass you need Harribobs.

Have you already tried to drink from it ?
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   no...just found a picture on the net

but watch this space
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on December 21, 2005, 07:36:29 AM
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Congratulations ! Just the glass you need Harribobs.

Have you already tried to drink from it ?
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   no...just found a picture on the net

but watch this space
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Chris be warned: Translations of "kwak":
to dumb; to plump; to dash down; thud; dab; blob; blotch...  
     
Perhaps a 3 day training course in Belgium is required!  
Beachcombers
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on December 21, 2005, 07:49:51 AM
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NB Harribobs,
It is really a once in life time experience if you are fully open to other people's life!

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Is that you in the picture Leen? you never told us that you can sing  
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No I was not on stage but behind the camera.
And I am never allowed to sing anywhere.  
Leen
Beachcombers
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on December 21, 2005, 10:00:14 AM
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Chris be warned: Translations of "kwak":
to dumb; to plump; to dash down; thud; dab; blob; blotch...  
      
Perhaps a 3 day training course in Belgium is required!   
Beachcombers
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   3 day course sounds like a good idea, with a refresher in the Netherlands as well??

I have dropped a few hints about the kwak glass so maybe santa will bring me one, if I'm good
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on December 21, 2005, 10:17:38 AM
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Chris be warned: Translations of "kwak":
to dumb; to plump; to dash down; thud; dab; blob; blotch...  
      
Perhaps a 3 day training course in Belgium is required!   
Beachcombers
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   3 day course sounds like a good idea, with a refresher in the Netherlands as well??

I have dropped a few hints about the kwak glass so maybe santa will bring me one, if I'm good
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Bring sufficient shoes with you!!      

Leen
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on January 05, 2006, 10:30:14 PM
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ah ha!!!

 


Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on January 06, 2006, 01:19:27 PM
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A disco I infrequently visited (in my first youth) had some glasses with this shape as one of it's major attractions. Only difference was that they were 1 meter long.       You were only allowed to try them if you took part in a beer drinking race on the stage. Yes, an extra pair of shoes + shirt and trousers would have been useful for all the contestants.   
Tom
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you know it hadn't occured to me that it was a smaller version of those glasses, we have the same in the UK called 'a yard of ale' glass


(http://www.bargizmos.co.uk/bargizmos/images/yag.jpg)

d'oh!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on January 06, 2006, 02:56:55 PM
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A disco I infrequently visited (in my first youth) had some glasses with this shape as one of it's major attractions. Only difference was that they were 1 meter long.       You were only allowed to try them if you took part in a beer drinking race on the stage. Yes, an extra pair of shoes + shirt and trousers would have been useful for all the contestants.   
Tom
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you know it hadn't occured to me that it was a smaller version of those glasses, we have the same in the UK called 'a yard of ale' glass


 
I can advise to change over to the metric system    
As you can see much easier to handle  

1 meter beer:


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and the calculations are much simpler too  

1 meter = 1000 mm  
1 yard   = 36000 mil  (914.4 mm)  

Leen
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on January 07, 2006, 12:52:37 AM
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Still using the imperial units   

Leen
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METRIC???

hey! we still use pounds shillings and pence here !!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on January 07, 2006, 05:10:53 PM
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and the calculations are much simpler too

1 meter = 1000 mm
1 yard = 36000 mil (914.4 mm)
I don't quite get it!  Can you convert it to Euros please.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: compage on January 07, 2006, 05:13:43 PM
Surely a yard is 1.705 litres?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on January 08, 2006, 12:00:59 AM
hmmm maybe if we convert it back to drachmas?  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: compage on January 08, 2006, 04:31:56 PM
No, that would make it 39.35 inches.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on February 09, 2006, 11:52:04 AM
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there are certain times when you really need that beer, coming off the beach on a hot day, at the end of hard days walking (or in the middle)

so which one do you go for?
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Moved post.
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Post by: harribobs on February 20, 2006, 01:26:54 AM
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Moved post.
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superb post Leen


i'm very impressed


so what beer were you drinking that night???        
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Post by: beachcombers on February 20, 2006, 08:55:18 AM
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superb post Leen


i'm very impressed


so what beer were you drinking that night???        
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Looking in my garage it must have been Palm Special  
Leen
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on February 27, 2006, 12:54:07 AM
well after a visit to south manchester's belgium belly ..i can now add 'troupabour' 'kappitel' and 'ename' to my list  hmmmm

so many beers.....so little liver left  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on March 20, 2006, 06:15:29 PM
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well after a visit to south manchester's belgium belly ..i can now add 'troupabour' 'kappitel' and 'ename' to my list  hmmmm

so many beers.....so little liver left 
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If those Belgium beers are as good as you suggest, then I'm glad they're not available here. They would wreck my economy long before they got to the liver.

I tried a canned Guinness last Saturday. 2,50 GBP at the supermarket and it left me slightly irritated  and yearning desperately for a real one.    Only 8 more weeks (being positive here), before I can settle down in a Yorkshire pub for a few.    

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on March 24, 2006, 10:38:38 PM
8 more weeks and i'll be in Plakias


i know where i'd rather be!!
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Post by: toma2 on March 26, 2006, 05:20:13 PM
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8 more weeks and i'll be in Plakias


i know where i'd rather be!!
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Yes me too!! But York will have to do. Any Greek tavernas in York?         Just kidding.
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Post by: harribobs on March 27, 2006, 10:57:04 AM
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Yes me too!! But York will have to do. Any Greek tavernas in York?         Just kidding.
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[a href=\"http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&hs=Oun&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=greek+restaurant&near=York,+UK&radius=0.0&latlng=53957744,-1082329,519508544133919047&sa=X&oi=local&ct=result&cd=0]mana![/url]
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 03, 2006, 11:27:24 AM
we need a new beer smiley

(http://www.mysportztalk.com/smiles_images/drinks.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 06, 2006, 08:39:38 AM
     

See poll above:

Amstel is up 1.95 % since last week. YES!! We're gonna beat them yet.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 06, 2006, 10:21:00 AM
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See poll above:

Amstel is up 1.95 % since last week. YES!! We're gonna beat them yet.
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   there's a long way to go!!

Tom, did you notice I found you a greek restaurant in York?

[a href=\"http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&hs=Oun&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=greek+restaurant&near=York,+UK&radius=0.0&latlng=53957744,-1082329,519508544133919047&sa=X&oi=local&ct=result&cd=0]Mana Restaurant link[/url]
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 06, 2006, 11:13:26 AM
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See poll above:

Amstel is up 1.95 % since last week. YES!! We're gonna beat them yet.
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   there's a long way to go!!

Tom, did you notice I found you a greek restaurant in York?

[a href=\"http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&hs=Oun&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=greek+restaurant&near=York,+UK&radius=0.0&latlng=53957744,-1082329,519508544133919047&sa=X&oi=local&ct=result&cd=0]Mana Restaurant link[/url]
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Yes, thank you, but I chose to ignore it.   Any spare time in York is going to be spent in a traditional Yorkshire environment. That signifies a pub, with a glass of ale or stout.   Actually, I prefer British beverages to anything the Greeks produce.  Well, at least when I am in Britain. Single Malts, Guinness and ales are what I am looking forward to.      

Ouzo, raki and Amstel belong on Crete, and I once had an experience in a Greek restaurant in London that made me very cautious of visiting one again. It's a story including two German hippy-girls, a bad case of Bistromathics (see Douglas Adams) and it is too extended to be told here.     It will appear in my memoirs.

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 06, 2006, 12:47:43 PM
well if you make it over to manchester i'll take you for a pint of heavy chocolate porter...you'll love it


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It's a story including two German hippy-girls, a bad case of Bistromathics

i hope you had the extra vitamina!!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 13, 2006, 11:58:02 AM
  Lets not derail this tread, shall we?

The chocolate porter sounds interesting......  

Thanks for the invitation. Unfortunately, I will not make it to Manchester this time, so I have to see what I can find in York. Have you got any labels to sugest?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on April 13, 2006, 12:32:20 PM
>Have you got any labels to sugest?

Toma,

Make it a bit easy on Chris.  
Suggest to make a preselection first.  

Make your choice (http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/)

 

Leen
 

I made mine, No need for export though.  
My favourite next month (http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/labels.pl/1636/mythos-hellenic-lager-beer.html)  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 13, 2006, 10:21:52 PM
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>Have you got any labels to sugest?

Toma,

Make it a bit easy on Chris.  
Suggest to make a preselection first.  

Make your choice ([url]http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/[/url])

 

Leen
 

I made mine, No need for export though.   
My favourite next month ([url]http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/labels.pl/1636/mythos-hellenic-lager-beer.html[/url]) 
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hahaha!!  mythos next month!!

Tom

here's a link for you and i'm sure you can get a guide for York


[a href=\"http://www.camra.org.uk/]CAMRA, the campaign for real ale[/url]
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on April 14, 2006, 03:01:41 PM
A bit curious, it boils down now  

A goat, beer and chocolate and still feeling young.  

Take notice of the logo and the name of the brewery!

Tom's favourite beer? (http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/labels.pl/2644/youngs-luxury-double-chocolate-stout-2.html)


     

Leen
 
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 14, 2006, 07:30:45 PM
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A bit curious, it boils down now   

A goat, beer and chocolate and still feeling young.  

Take notice of the logo and the name of the brewery!

Tom's favourite beer? ([url]http://www.beerlabels.com/labels/labels.pl/2644/youngs-luxury-double-chocolate-stout-2.html[/url])


      

Leen
 
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An excellent suggestion, fits my requirements on all points.   I will definitely look for that one.

Thanks guys.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 16, 2006, 05:37:22 PM
and another for you Tom

highly recomended  

more sheep (http://www.blacksheepbrewery.com/)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 21, 2006, 01:20:18 PM
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and another for you Tom

highly recomended   

more sheep ([url]http://www.blacksheepbrewery.com/[/url])
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The Black Sheep is already on my list.   But thanks anyway. I appreciate your concern for my welfare.  

The other day, I caught myself eagerly devising plots designed as excuses for moving some of the work out of the auditorium and into the Public House.   When I realized what I was doing, I had to admit to myself that this beer tread is actually influencing my thinking. Scary!  

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Barny on April 21, 2006, 01:29:08 PM
Black Sheep, Riggwelter (England)
The name is Yorkshire dialect for a sheep that has rolled onto its back and cannot get up again - perhaps a veiled warning about this beer's strength. Riggwelter pours a very dark chocolate, almost black colour with a cream-coloured head that is quite dense. On the nose lots of toast, roasted aromas and chocolate malt, with a little citrussy note peeking through. On the palate it is a medium-bodied beer, with plenty more dark, espresso and roasted barley flavours, and a dry, savoury character. Hops are minimal, though there is a juicy acidity to keep it fresh. A bright and crisp style of stout-like dark beer. 5.7% ABV, 50cl, £1.79, down to £1.34
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on April 21, 2006, 02:05:54 PM
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Black Sheep, Riggwelter (England)
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Riggwelter must come from Nordic. It is not a Norwegian word any more, but if it was it would be spelt “ryggvelter” (rygg = back and velte = fall over). I think I will add it to my Norwegian vocabulary as a description of a person who is liable to roll over on his/her back……and as a description of a very strong drink.

You gave an experts description of it, so I am realy looking forward to tasting Black Sheep's Riggwelter.

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on April 21, 2006, 02:11:30 PM
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I had to admit to myself that this beer tread is actually influencing my thinking. Scary!  

Tom
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welcome to my world!!!!  

   
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: LoukaFran on April 23, 2006, 08:33:20 PM
For the beer lovers:

Found this on PalmBeachPost.com:

"
Beer Guy: Sampling Belgian beers
By Dan Oliver

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, April 20, 2006

Belgium has been called "the Disneyland of beer" and with good reason. If a determined beer lover decided to sample one Belgian beer a day until trying them all, he or she would spend the better part of two years accomplishing the feat. And what a feat it would be! There are 110 breweries in Belgium, producing 650 different types of beer. The country is a popular tourist destination for that very reason, attracting thousands of devoted followers who flock there each year to sample the incredible variety of Belgium's unique brews"


And in Greece ......... we only drink and enjoy Greek beers like Mythos and Greek wines not only in bottle but from especially from the "spiti"
(or home wines).  

Do not tell us that we do not know what is good !    

 
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ali & Dave on May 23, 2006, 07:30:23 PM
If there are any beer drinkers who would like to try the Craft Beer which is from a micro brewery in Athens (previously mentioned by Bob) it is now possible to get it at On the Rocks and very nice it is too.  
Ali
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on May 24, 2006, 03:30:55 PM
.......it is now possible to get it at On the Rocks and very nice it is too.  
Ali.......



Did we had problems with your cooling cabinet?    

 

Leen
 
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ali & Dave on May 25, 2006, 07:50:09 PM
Sorry leen, I'm confused
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Post by: Graham_and_Karen on May 25, 2006, 08:25:23 PM
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Sorry leen, I'm confused
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I think Leen is thinking of the beer having ice in it - On the Rocks  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ali & Dave on May 26, 2006, 02:40:33 PM
Aaah......thank you.  the heat must be getting to me.  It's more like August than May out here
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ploppy on May 26, 2006, 03:22:41 PM
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Aaah......thank you.  the heat must be getting to me.  It's more like August than May out here
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As opposed to here where it is more like February  
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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: compage on May 29, 2006, 11:51:03 PM
Now that's what I call a weather station.
Evapotranspiration... Mmmmm.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on May 31, 2006, 12:51:38 PM
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If there are any beer drinkers who would like to try the Craft Beer which is from a micro brewery in Athens (previously mentioned by Bob) it is now possible to get it at On the Rocks and very nice it is too.  
Ali
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I'll second that!

tipped off by ali, we headed round there and throughly enjoyed the pilsner

we found the bar a pleasant place to be as well, low key cretan music and attentive staff
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on June 24, 2006, 08:37:05 PM
I know it is rather late but I think I should report on my liquid experiences in York. I have been home a month now, and I have needed that time to digest all the input I had. The transition from English to Norwegian beer prices was not smooth, and it caused me to sober up quickly.  

Most evenings were spent in lively company visiting between two and 10 pubs, and the Guinness was always excellent. I tried to find the Riggwelter, it was hard. On the third last evening I found a place that had it, but only in bottles. It was good, but after such a long search it should have been better.   I quite quickly returned to my Guinness. I tried several other ales from Black Sheep and Young’s, and did not find a single one I did not like.

The worst pubs I visited were all at the university. We quickly located the nearest off-campus watering holes. They were only five minutes away, and although both had half a dozen large TV screens they still served good meals and excellent brews.

I’ll not bore you with all details, so I’ll only mention the one pub I liked the most. Located in the medieval part of town, and reputedly the most haunted pub in York, it was called The Golden Fleece. No TVs, no loud music, no level floors, actually not a single 90 degree angle in the whole place, but with loads of atmosphere and excellent service. Initially I thought “The most haunted” would be a tourist trap, but it isn’t. We only met one other foreigner there.

Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 25, 2006, 10:49:47 PM
two to ten pubs???  

did the Golden Fleece have 90 degree angles before you started on the black stuff?  

it sounds like you enjoyed your stay mate  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on July 20, 2006, 11:03:25 PM
I see Amstel is up a point or two again, Hurray.

I guess the lager consumption over there in Britain have risen to new hights the last few days, eh?  The heat is on.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 24, 2006, 02:18:06 PM
Quote from: toma2
I see Amstel is up a point or two again, Hurray.

I guess the lager consumption over there in Britain have risen to new hights the last few days, eh?  The heat is on.


it has in our house Tom, opening a can is the most i can manage in this heat  

has it been any warmer over there?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on July 25, 2006, 01:51:12 AM
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has it been any warmer over there?

Nope, 6 degrees this morning.   Only sign of summer is the tourists.   I recived a gift of Belgian beer today: "Jupiler" MMMMMMMM ah, not bad for a blond.    But I will save the rest of them for a hotter day.

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Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: John & Zell on July 25, 2006, 08:48:18 AM
Couldn't agree more I go to Belgium  fairly regular, I love my Mythos but JUPILER MMMMMmmmmmm
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 26, 2006, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: John & Zell
Couldn't agree more I go to Belgium  fairly regular, I love my Mythos but JUPILER MMMMMmmmmmm


Jupiler...nice   but i prefer something i little stronger,

i am getting to like 'tripels' a little too much  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: david kelly on July 26, 2006, 05:10:32 PM
Don't know how this thread escaped me until now given it's one of my favourite subjects.  Have to admit I wasn't that taken with the craft beer at On the Rocks, didn't think it had that much in the way of flavour.  The best beer I came across in Plakias were the two organic bottled beers available in the Souvlaki House, a blond and a dark ale.  Very nice.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 27, 2006, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: david kelly
Don't know how this thread escaped me until now given it's one of my favourite subjects.  Have to admit I wasn't that taken with the craft beer at On the Rocks, didn't think it had that much in the way of flavour.  The best beer I came across in Plakias were the two organic bottled beers available in the Souvlaki House, a blond and a dark ale.  Very nice.

Hi David

did you try the craft pilsner at 'on the rocks' ?, it has a more defined bite than the craft lager

i didn't try the beers at the souvalaki house in may, mainly because i couldn't sit that close to sifi's new place without feeling very mean
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: DOTTY on July 27, 2006, 05:24:41 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: david kelly
Don't know how this thread escaped me until now given it's one of my favourite subjects.  Have to admit I wasn't that taken with the craft beer at On the Rocks, didn't think it had that much in the way of flavour.  The best beer I came across in Plakias were the two organic bottled beers available in the Souvlaki House, a blond and a dark ale.  Very nice.

Hi David

did you try the craft pilsner at 'on the rocks' ?, it has a more defined bite than the craft lager

i didn't try the beers at the souvalaki house in may, mainly because i couldn't sit that close to sifi's new place without feeling very mean

No need Chris Sifi sells it too.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 28, 2006, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: DOTTY
No need Chris Sifi sells it too.

ah!!! ta Dotty

I will have to try one to wash down my gyros  


are you back now? you had a good time i take it?...shame about the weather    
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: beachcombers on July 28, 2006, 11:09:31 AM
[shame about the weather    
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I think you need some cooling Chris.
 

Cool down  (http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/plakiasdj/detail?.dir=/415dscd&.dnm=c7eescd.jpg&.src=ph)


Cheers

Leen
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 28, 2006, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: beachcombers
I think you need some cooling Chris.
 


     Where and when was that taken Leen?   ( i am sure i can see Tom on the beach, snowbathing)


and i think i saw the lovely Willemien cooling off as well?    


chris  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: DOTTY on July 28, 2006, 11:03:09 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: DOTTY

No need Chris Sifi sells it too.

ah!!! ta Dotty

I will have to try one to wash down my gyros  


are you back now? you had a good time i take it?...shame about the weather    

Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: John R on July 29, 2006, 08:33:20 AM
Quote from: DOTTY
Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.

It does look busy and I see we are listed too. Can't believe it !!. There never used to be everybody around at that time of year. We need to start a topic on the best way of avoiding all one's friends while trying to enjoy a quiet holiday in Plakias   :'(

John R
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rowena & Carl on July 29, 2006, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: John R
Quote from: DOTTY

Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.

It does look busy and I see we are listed too. Can't believe it !!. There never used to be everybody around at that time of year. We need to start a topic on the best way of avoiding all one's friends while trying to enjoy a quiet holiday in Plakias   :'(

John R

What is the 60 day list? I agree about the new topic we have so many friends to see it's almost impossible to fit in to a 2 week hol might have to start doing 3 weeks what a shame...

Rowena & Carl
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: DOTTY on July 29, 2006, 03:15:43 PM
Quote from: John R
Quote from: DOTTY

Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.

It does look busy and I see we are listed too. Can't believe it !!. There never used to be everybody around at that time of year. We need to start a topic on the best way of avoiding all one's friends while trying to enjoy a quiet holiday in Plakias   :'(

John R

I know its a bit drastic for you John, but the only way out as I see it, is to change your routine      and not be so popular  

 Dotty

PS to R & C The 6o day list is at the bottom of the forum page it means we know we will soon be there
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: John R on July 29, 2006, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: DOTTY
I know its a bit drastic for you John, but the only way out as I see it, is to change your routine      and not be so popular

me "popular"      I remember that happy night in Livicon when I sat enveloped within the pot plant foilage  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: DOTTY on July 29, 2006, 07:58:20 PM
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Quote from: John R
this one john?  
Quote from: DOTTY

I know its a bit drastic for you John, but the only way out as I see it, is to change your routine      and not be so popular

me "popular"      I remember that happy night in Livicon when I sat enveloped within the pot plant foilage  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: DOTTY on July 29, 2006, 08:08:38 PM
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Quote from: DOTTY
Quote from: John R
this one john?  
Quote from: DOTTY

I know its a bit drastic for you John, but the only way out as I see it, is to change your routine      and not be so popular

me "popular"      I remember that happy night in Livicon when I sat enveloped within the pot plant foilage  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: John R on July 29, 2006, 08:21:24 PM
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Yes - that's the top of my head. I was in need of peace and quiet - Saga louts can only take so much  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on August 03, 2006, 10:37:51 PM
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Where and when was that taken Leen? ( i am sure i can see Tom on the beach, snowbathing)

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Couldn't agree more I go to Belgium fairly regular, I love my Mythos but JUPILER MMMMMmmmmmm

The summer has finally hit Lofoten. For the last few days we have been suffering under a scorching heat approaching 15 C in the shade, cloudless skies and 19 hours of sunshine every day   I have had several trips to the "Far End" of Lofoten in order to cool down in the sea (11 C)   My tan has improved about 400 % and I have finished off my Jupilers    They accompanied my daily BBQs.  


Tom
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on August 04, 2006, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: toma2
I have had several trips to the "Far End" of Lofoten in order to cool down in the sea (11 C)   My tan has improved about 400 %

Tom


400%??    so that would be white with just a hint of blue???
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: toma2 on August 04, 2006, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: toma2
I have had several trips to the "Far End" of Lofoten in order to cool down in the sea (11 C)   My tan has improved about 400 %

Tom


400%??    so that would be white with just a hint of blue???

Rather like a hint of diluted JUPILER seen through my almost translucent skin    but a "hint of blue" is considerably more than a hint when I have just come out of the ocean.....
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on August 07, 2006, 09:01:36 AM
Quote from: Rowena & Carl
Quote from: John R
Quote from: DOTTY

Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.

It does look busy and I see we are listed too. Can't believe it !!. There never used to be everybody around at that time of year. We need to start a topic on the best way of avoiding all one's friends while trying to enjoy a quiet holiday in Plakias   :'(

John R

What is the 60 day list? I agree about the new topic we have so many friends to see it's almost impossible to fit in to a 2 week hol might have to start doing 3 weeks what a shame...

Rowena & Carl

Hi R & C
You will have to registar your details etc on the calendar and then you will automatically appear at the bottom of the forum page.  

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rowena & Carl on August 10, 2006, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: George
Quote from: Rowena & Carl
Quote from: John R
Quote from: DOTTY

Back for a while anyway and happy to see we have made it on the 60 days list  Looks like being a busy time.

It does look busy and I see we are listed too. Can't believe it !!. There never used to be everybody around at that time of year. We need to start a topic on the best way of avoiding all one's friends while trying to enjoy a quiet holiday in Plakias   :'(

John R

What is the 60 day list? I agree about the new topic we have so many friends to see it's almost impossible to fit in to a 2 week hol might have to start doing 3 weeks what a shame...

Rowena & Carl

Hi R & C
You will have to registar your details etc on the calendar and then you will automatically appear at the bottom of the forum page.  

george g...
Thanks have done, 5 weeks tommorow can't wait!! Not sure if your there when we are but I'll ask Dionysos at about you as we stay there
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on January 23, 2007, 12:06:25 PM
I thought I'd just resurrect the beer thread as I was just thinking about my first Mythos in May  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Barny on January 23, 2007, 03:33:32 PM
My Raki is slowly going! Is it August yet?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Stuart & Hilary on January 23, 2007, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Barny
My Raki is slowly going! Is it August yet?

We have a small boat parked off shore here at present which seems to be shedding the odd barrel or two.
Probably not of Greek origin though!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on January 24, 2007, 08:14:42 AM
Quote from: Stuart & Hilary
Quote from: Barny
My Raki is slowly going! Is it August yet?

We have a small boat parked off shore here at present which seems to be shedding the odd barrel or two.
Probably not of Greek origin though!

No harm in looking though is there!!???  

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on January 24, 2007, 09:35:13 AM
and if you see a BMW motorbike.....................
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on January 24, 2007, 01:24:54 PM
...... pictures in the papers showed large wine casks being rolled off. I think they were new though (i.e. empty) which apparently may cause a problem for the forthcoming South African wine harvest.

It's OK in my book to help yourself to something that is only going to be dumped anyway, but I felt really sorry for the South African lady who watched her family heirlooms being taken. Also, the rubbish these people have generated is awful.

Mike

ps. sorry, way off topic!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on February 07, 2007, 11:21:56 AM
Quote from: Mike G
Mike

ps. sorry, way off topic!


your penance is three large Mythos with a raki chaser, my son (http://www.themanchesters.org/forum/images/smiles/eusa_naughty.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: returner on February 10, 2007, 09:10:31 PM
What about those lovely organic beers served at the Souvlaki bar. ( You have to ask specially for them) Blond or dark. Made somewhere on the road to Rethymnon. Have the same tops that the old Grolsch bottles did years ago.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on February 10, 2007, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: returner
What about those lovely organic beers served at the Souvlaki bar. ( You have to ask specially for them) Blond or dark. Made somewhere on the road to Rethymnon. Have the same tops that the old Grolsch bottles did years ago.


ah yes....they are now sold at Sifi's new place, the grill house  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on May 21, 2007, 09:36:09 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: returner
What about those lovely organic beers served at the Souvlaki bar. ( You have to ask specially for them) Blond or dark. Made somewhere on the road to Rethymnon. Have the same tops that the old Grolsch bottles did years ago.


ah yes....they are now sold at Sifi's new place, the grill house  


which is where we'll be tomorrow  



/fingers crossed
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on May 22, 2007, 11:40:18 AM
Looking highly likely ..... according to the Manchester Departures board, the 09:45 flight to HER departed "on time".

Just hope the Harribobses leave some for me in July (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif)


{edit}
After thought - I suppose it means more Holts round here, for a couple of weeks, so I shouldn't complain (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/27.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 08, 2007, 10:01:16 PM
holts?   you can have the lot for me mate!

the flights were great, and the return got in 30 mins early!!!

back on topic...  we had a couple of crafts at 'on the rocks' , great bar, very relaxed place to be, but as usual it was the mythos that got the most stick
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on June 09, 2007, 02:27:43 PM
Quote from: harribobs
holts?   you can have the lot for me mate!...

Cheers (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif)
I was told Holts is an acquired taste ... it takes a lot of effort to like it  (http://www.smileypad.com/v202/Cache/Feelings/Eye-Spin.gif)


Quote from: harribobs
...  we had a couple of crafts at 'on the rocks' , great bar, very relaxed place to be, but as usual it was the mythos that got the most stick

I can cope (happily) with Mythos
(http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/4122/2544652180046486184S600x600Q85.jpg)

.... but I do prefer Alfa - any outlets in Plakias?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: bob on June 15, 2007, 03:23:57 AM
I had a beer called Zorba during my first adventure in Plakias. Interesting.
But, here in the States I will usually settle on a Samuel Adams (Boston, MA, USA), Corona (Mexico) or if I'm in a good mood and it is being sold by the glass Bass Ale (one of my favorites).
My vote is cast for Mythos.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 15, 2007, 11:52:58 PM
hi Bob,

zorba's has done the job a few times for me but i've not seen it recently, i must have a look for sam adams

a mythos when it's needed takes a lot of beating!!

the peligramnos beach bar...  ( now who's that on the left?)

(http://harribobs.smugmug.com/photos/163242460-L.jpg)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: compage on June 16, 2007, 09:07:27 AM
Leftheris?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 16, 2007, 11:18:42 AM
yep, he was having a ciggie with freddy
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Cat on July 03, 2007, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: bob
I had a beer called Zorba during my first adventure in Plakias. Interesting.
But, here in the States I will usually settle on a Samuel Adams (Boston, MA, USA), Corona (Mexico) or if I'm in a good mood and it is being sold by the glass Bass Ale (one of my favorites).
My vote is cast for Mythos.

I'm a big fan of Corona. Its such a summery drink and quite refreshing that it's great for holiday drinking.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 04, 2007, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Cat
I'm a big fan of Corona. Its such a summery drink and quite refreshing that it's great for holiday drinking.

hi cat

welcome to the forum

you won't see a lot of Corona in plakias! i'm afraid!

chris
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 18, 2007, 03:31:47 PM
Quick answer to my above question .....

Alfa is available - on draught - at K/Costas Chrysoula; Sofia and Lamon .... and probably several other places, too.

Next question:

Does anybody else think that canned Mythos tastes:
    a}  nothing like Mythos?
    b}  as bad as any other canned lager?
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on July 18, 2007, 03:44:14 PM
Quote from: Chas
Quick answer to my above question .....

Alfa is available - on draught - at K/Costas Chrysoula; Sofia and Lamon .... and probably several other places, too.

Next question:

Does anybody else think that canned Mythos tastes:
    a}  nothing like Mythos?
    b}  as bad as any other canned lager?
Hello,

I can't answer this but I do think (bottled) Mythos is the best of the Greek beers and they are appropriate to the ambience and climate of Greece. However, none can compare to the complexity and scope of the wonderful range of real ales we have in England.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 18, 2007, 04:08:11 PM
Quote from: Mike G
Quote from: Chas
Quick answer to my above question .....

Alfa is available - on draught - at K/Costas Chrysoula; Sofia and Lamon .... and probably several other places, too.

Next question:

Does anybody else think that canned Mythos tastes:
    a}  nothing like Mythos?
    b}  as bad as any other canned lager?
Hello,

I can't answer this but I do think (bottled) Mythos is the best of the Greek beers and they are appropriate to the ambience and climate of Greece. However, none can compare to the complexity and scope of the wonderful range of real ales we have in England.

Mike
Hi, Mike,

No argument from me about the joys of British beers/ales .... however, I don't think they would be as enjoyable in Greece.  (Unless, like Dave {of the Village Store} you have been starved of them for a long time    .)

As you say, it's all about ambience and climate.  In Greece, my preferred swill is draught Alfa or bottled Fix (hard to find) - bottled Mythos is always a good alternative if neither of those is available.

Re. Amstel - having lived in Holland for a few years, the stuff served under that name in Greece is (1) definitely NOT Amstel and (2) bettered suited to Greece than the original but no substitute for Alfa or Mythos (IMHO).


Re. Zorbas - still haven't found any on sale!  We went in the Livicon (advertising board outside) only to be told "Sorry, there's no demand - we don't stock it any more."
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 19, 2007, 12:51:14 AM
Quote from: Chas
Does anybody else think that canned Mythos tastes:
    a}  nothing like Mythos?
    b}  as bad as any other canned lager?


you forgot

c} dreadful

i don't if it's just my taste buds, the heat, or whatever but canned beer doesn't work out there

certainly doesn't taste like mythos, certainly does taste of the can
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 19, 2007, 12:24:19 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: Chas
Does anybody else think that canned Mythos tastes:
    a}  nothing like Mythos?
    b}  as bad as any other canned lager?


you forgot

c} dreadful

i don't if it's just my taste buds, the heat, or whatever but canned beer doesn't work out there

certainly doesn't taste like mythos, certainly does taste of the can
1. It must be your taste buds - just like mine  

2. In my simple world view, I thought c} was automatically part of b}  

The only good thing about canned Mythos is the absence of the dreaded widgit  }[/i]
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on July 19, 2007, 01:02:13 PM
I've been going to Greece for over 20 years and for all that time Amstel has been available but I only remember Mythos in latter years. Is this right? I'm sure someone will know.

I think I agree with Chas about real ale not going well in Greece, although I haven't tried it there.

I don't normally drink alcohol on the plane but a few years ago I did as the captain sent out 2 rounds of free drinks to compensate for the plane being about 50 meals short and a delay on take-off. I chose Stella Artois which I hadn't tried before (I'm not a lager drinker except in Greece). To my taste it was markedly inferior to the Amstel I had been drinking in Greece.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Greecemad on July 19, 2007, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: Mike G
I've been going to Greece for over 20 years and for all that time Amstel has been available but I only remember Mythos in latter years. Is this right? I'm sure someone will know.

I think I agree with Chas about real ale not going well in Greece, although I haven't tried it there.

I don't normally drink alcohol on the plane but a few years ago I did as the captain sent out 2 rounds of free drinks to compensate for the plane being about 50 meals short and a delay on take-off. I chose Stella Artois which I hadn't tried before (I'm not a lager drinker except in Greece). To my taste it was markedly inferior to the Amstel I had been drinking in Greece.

Mike

Mike,

Mythos, Alfa and the lesser-known Greek beers have only been around for the last 10 years at the most. When I first started going to Greece (17 years ago), Amstel was the only beer available in a lot of places, but some had Heineken as well. There was nothing else. Pumps were a rarity and I don't remember cans, so it was all bottles. The bottles then were 500ml and 300ml (smaller than the present 330ml).

Greecemad
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike from Sussex on July 20, 2007, 10:23:52 AM
When I first visited Greece (Thasos) in 1972, there seemed to be only two beers available in the tavernas. A greek beer whose name I cannot remember and a beer named Falcon. This tasted much better. Both were sold in 50cl bottles and if I remember correctly, the greek one was 10 drachma and the Falcon 11 drachma. A good dinner could be had for 15 to 20 drachma and wine was half the price of beer. Happy days!

The Falcon was brewed in Greece, but was owned by either Amstel or Oranjeboom.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on July 20, 2007, 12:50:33 PM
Quote from: Greecemad
Mike,

Mythos, Alfa and the lesser-known Greek beers have only been around for the last 10 years at the most. When I first started going to Greece (17 years ago), Amstel was the only beer available in a lot of places, but some had Heineken as well. There was nothing else. Pumps were a rarity and I don't remember cans, so it was all bottles. The bottles then were 500ml and 300ml (smaller than the present 330ml).

Greecemad
Hello Greecemad,

Thanks for confirming my memory re. Mythos being relatively recent. The other local beer widely available when I first visited about 20 years ago was Henninger, but I haven't seen it for years. If you wanted something brewed in Greece it was Amstel or Henninger.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 20, 2007, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: Mike G
Quote from: Greecemad
Mike,

Mythos, Alfa and the lesser-known Greek beers have only been around for the last 10 years at the most. When I first started going to Greece (17 years ago), Amstel was the only beer available in a lot of places, but some had Heineken as well. There was nothing else. Pumps were a rarity and I don't remember cans, so it was all bottles. The bottles then were 500ml and 300ml (smaller than the present 330ml).

Greecemad

Hello Greecemad,

Thanks for confirming my memory re. Mythos being relatively recent. The other local beer widely available when I first visited about 20 years ago was Henniger, but I haven't seen it for years. If you wanted something brewed in Greece it was Amstel or Henniger.

Mike

Thinking back to our early visits (1980 on), the choice was between bottled Henniger and draught Watneys Red Barrel (both imported) ..... I have seen the odd Henniger in recent years but (thank goodness) no Red Barrel (http://zorbas.de/scripts/phpBB2/images/smiles/078.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Greecemad on July 20, 2007, 08:12:33 PM
For more information about Greek beers see the following:

http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm (http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm)

It appears that I was spot on when I said Mythos had only been available for about the last 10 years - apparently it was created in 1997.

I have heard previously that there were original Greek beers that weren't very good, and that after Amstel and Heineken started brewing in Greece, nobody wanted the original Greek beers so they went out of business.

Greecemad
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 21, 2007, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Greecemad
For more information about Greek beers see the following:

[url]http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm[/url] ([url]http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm[/url])

It appears that I was spot on when I said Mythos had only been available for about the last 10 years - apparently it was created in 1997.

I have heard previously that there were original Greek beers that weren't very good, and that after Amstel and Heineken started brewing in Greece, nobody wanted the original Greek beers so they went out of business.

Greecemad

Sounds like a reason to celebrate ... cheers (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rowena & Carl on July 21, 2007, 08:39:25 PM
Quote from: Chas
Quote from: Greecemad
For more information about Greek beers see the following:

[url]http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm[/url] ([url]http://grecja.home.pl/eng/epiwo.htm[/url])

It appears that I was spot on when I said Mythos had only been available for about the last 10 years - apparently it was created in 1997.

I have heard previously that there were original Greek beers that weren't very good, and that after Amstel and Heineken started brewing in Greece, nobody wanted the original Greek beers so they went out of business.

Greecemad

Sounds like a reason to celebrate ... cheers ([url]http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif[/url])


Chas

I do like your smilie's where do you find them?

Rowena
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 21, 2007, 11:46:11 PM
he linking them in  

http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif)

(http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 22, 2007, 05:28:37 PM
R&C

I am such a saddo, that I pass my time (http://www.smileypad.com/v202/Cache/Banners/Google-Friend.gif)ing for "animated gif" and then dragging them into "Smileypad" for use when appropriate (or not!).

(http://www.freemyimage.com/ims/u/1793/2063/23993.jpg)

I gotta million of 'em (http://zorbas.de/scripts/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_exclaim.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on July 23, 2007, 08:59:33 AM
Has everyone forgotten 'FIX', from the early 80's?

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on July 23, 2007, 10:41:55 AM
Quote from: George
Has everyone forgotten 'FIX', from the early 80's?

george g...

No, George,

I thought I mentioned it somewhere above ....

Rumour factory:  the Fix brewery was "closed" a few years back because of "corruption" and "tax evasion" ..... however, I have seen a few empty crates and bottles in the last twelve months - the one place that was open had no stock left - just empties  :'(

IMHO, it's less "sticky" than Mythos but not quite as sharp as Alfa - still a good drink (http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/27.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on July 23, 2007, 10:51:41 AM
I remember now, I'm just getting over a head cold so my heads a bit thick!

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on July 24, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
i had a can of Fix ( in  fact was given  ) last may, it went down rather well on a red hot beach
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Icarus on August 21, 2007, 04:38:00 PM
Personally I found the Amstel seemed to be gassier than the Mythos, so I preferred the latter. I also assumed that the Amstel wasn't local, so again I chose the Mythos.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on September 05, 2007, 09:24:23 AM
Quote from: Icarus
Personally I found the Amstel seemed to be gassier than the Mythos, so I preferred the latter. I also assumed that the Amstel wasn't local, so again I chose the Mythos.
If you think Amstel (Dutch, I think) is gassy, try the draft Alpha!!  , excuse me!

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: returner on September 05, 2007, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: Mike G
Quote
I knew this thread would be a good idea, already i have got two new brews to seek out next year
The black beer sounds very interesting, (an IPA style  mmmm,) as do the Craft Brewery beers
Hello Chris,

I'm surprised you didn't try it in May this year. I know you went to the Souvlakia House as you wrote a review (one of the "few"). Maybe the Medousa's raki was more appealing! The "black" beer isn't black like Guinness but, as I say, brown like a bottled IPA (remember John Courage in the 60s/70s, or are you too young?). The black beer really stands out in Greece where almost all the beers are what we would call lagers at home.

I agree that local beers and foods are best in Greece (and anywhere I guess). e.g taramosalata, Mythos/Amstel.

Although I voted for Mythos I would be pushed to tell the difference between it and Amstel.  Could you distinguish them? Both are brewed in Greece I think.

There used to be other Greek beers like Fix and Henniger that I never see now.

Mike

Rethymnon Blondes are more fun! Just come back from lovely Plakias, the street Souvlaki outside Sifis serves the blond brew. Absolutely delicious.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Noopsy on September 08, 2007, 02:07:12 PM
Amstel is definitely brewed in Greece (tho' I can't remember exactly where).

The "Corali" has both Rethymno dark and light beer on the menu.  If I go there next year I will try one or t'other as an alternative to my usual Mythos.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on October 03, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: returner
Rethymnon Blondes are more fun! Just come back from lovely Plakias, the street Souvlaki outside Sifis serves the blond brew. Absolutely delicious.


sifis's also sells the rethyemaki beers! €2.70 for 250ml bottle though (and don't let him pour it, he doesn't understand sediment  )

when we were having our last meal at the kastro yesterday i spotted a bottle of  Mythos Red, never seen it before, yanni said it was very nice and said that the mythos brewery had been bought out by an english company (???)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on October 14, 2007, 04:47:06 PM
Quote from: harribobs
... the mythos brewery had been bought out by an english company (???)
If memory serves ..... Scottish & Newcastle bought it about four years ago.


OMG! Is Mythos Red really Newckie Brown ????
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on June 26, 2008, 04:19:17 PM
Just been talking to a mate of mine just got back from Skiathos. Said it was expensive and a 500ml size of Mythos was 3.5 euros.

What's the price in Plakias, anyone, who's already been this year??

I don't drink a lot of it maybe a couple or three during the day   , but there are some forum members (no names mentioned here   ) who live on the stuff, so they'll be interested too!

george g...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Chas on June 26, 2008, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: George
Just been talking to a mate of mine just got back from Skiathos. Said it was expensive and a 500ml size of Mythos was 3.5 euros.

What's the price in Plakias, anyone, who's already been this year??

I don't drink a lot of it maybe a couple or three during the day   , but there are some forum members (no names mentioned here   ) who live on the stuff, so they'll be interested too!

george g...

Three weeks ago, the cost for 500ml bottled Mythos was €2.50, in Mastixari, on Kos.

 Draught Alfa was €3 (and well worth it IMHO).
(http://www.chatitaliachat.it/serpe/mangia/128.gif) Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! That's better (http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/more/bigs/c005.gif)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 26, 2008, 11:03:20 PM
€2.50 a bottle in the tavernas in paleohora, €.90 in the supermarket on the balcony.............
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on June 27, 2008, 01:24:16 PM
Quote from: harribobs
€2.50 a bottle in the tavernas in paleohora, €.90 in the supermarket on the balcony.............
The same generally in Plakias in May. JBMouse has reported Mythos is only €2 in Sifi's.

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on June 27, 2008, 10:58:26 PM
Quote from: Mike G
The same generally in Plakias in May. JBMouse has reported Mythos is only €2 in Sifi's.

Mike

as he bucked up yet?  we used to go in for a late beer but stopped going in cos he was such a misery, so went into his uncle's place next door  
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ali & Dave on June 28, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
Hi

A bit out of touch with the prices as with the new job not going out nearly as much, don't swoon those of you who have known us a few years!!

Some of the Tavernas are certainly still doing Mythos as 2 euro but the bars tend to be from 2.80 up.  With draft at around 3.

If you're wanting different beer for a change, don't forget 'On The Rocks' which has the draft beer from the Craft micro brewery in Athens.  Well worth a taste and whilst it can be a bit expensive, the bar is a great place to relax and have a chat and the beer is definitely worth trying.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Mike G on June 28, 2008, 02:08:02 PM
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: Mike G
The same generally in Plakias in May. JBMouse has reported Mythos is only €2 in Sifi's.

Mike

as he bucked up yet?  we used to go in for a late beer but stopped going in cos he was such a misery, so went into his uncle's place next door
He was fine when I was there Chris, except one Saturday evening when he got a bit stroppy with local kids doing wheelies just outside his place. That magnificant moustache gives him the impression of someone you wouldn't want to fall out with!

Mike
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: harribobs on August 28, 2009, 10:51:36 PM
aye he was good in June when i was there, pulled me in for a pint and a chat
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Colin & Sandra on May 26, 2010, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: harribobs
there are certain times when you really need that beer, coming off the beach on a hot day, at the end of hard days walking (or in the middle)

so which one do you go for?

Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on May 26, 2010, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
That wouldn't be the Levicon would it, and I might add 'My' table??  

george...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Rogataber on May 26, 2010, 01:41:36 PM
 
Quote from: George
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
That wouldn't be the Levicon would it, and I might add 'My' table??  

george...

Sorry George, you are mistaken, it's 'My' Table!!!

Roger
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Colin & Sandra on May 26, 2010, 01:49:10 PM
Quote from: George
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
That wouldn't be the Levicon would it, and I might add 'My' table??  

george...

It certainly would be, hope your not there from 29/6 we may have to fight for it
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on May 26, 2010, 02:04:27 PM
If I get there this year it will be later in the year guys, Late Aug/early Sept so just get it warmed up for me OK?

george...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Colin & Sandra on May 26, 2010, 02:17:33 PM
Quote from: George
If I get there this year it will be later in the year guys, Late Aug/early Sept so just get it warmed up for me OK?

george...

That was warmed up? not worn out !!!
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on May 26, 2010, 02:27:28 PM
You don't wanna wear it out guys, the SL's will have something to say about losing a table. They do get upset you know!! ahhh!

george....
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Barny on May 26, 2010, 02:34:02 PM
Are you sure that's not my table?

     Barny.
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Peter&Dawn on May 26, 2010, 02:57:11 PM
Quote from: George
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
That wouldn't be the Levicon would it, and I might add 'My' table??  

george...


Your table?    I don't think so, it's our table (whenever possible). Roll on August

Peter&Dawn
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on May 26, 2010, 04:16:12 PM
OMG I've started a war!!! Let's hope the SL's haven't got their hearing aids in    

george...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Barny on May 26, 2010, 04:18:47 PM
Well I bet my table's better than your table !

                        Barny
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: George on May 26, 2010, 04:37:15 PM
What table is that then?
It can't be the one in the picture, 'cause that's better than anybody's!!

george...
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: Ploppy on May 26, 2010, 04:51:39 PM
Blimey that table is popular.
Also our table but not this time...

(http://ploppy.me.uk/Store/livicon.jpg)
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: John R on May 26, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: George
OMG I've started a war!!! Let's hope the SL's haven't got their hearing aids in    

george...

No they haven't - no problem - we barrack from the back. Ever since that major storm many years ago which came with such an initial gust that the torrential rain soaked everybody except us wise SL's on the back row.

John R
Title: Beer, Beer we want more beer
Post by: ireneandian on May 26, 2010, 09:29:38 PM
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Quote from: George
Quote from: Colin & Sandra
Mythos is my favourite by far, followed swiftly by another!!!
That wouldn't be the Levicon would it, and I might add 'My' table??  

george...

It certainly would be, hope your not there from 29/6 we may have to fight for it

dont drink all the mythos, we will be there 7/9