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Offline Mike G

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« Reply #120 on: November 12, 2008, 01:56:25 PM »
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Quote from: dimitri
just looked at the pics of the new development,noooooooooooooooooooo,a vision of hell or what?Glad i moved out of the cave,never get any rest with all that work going on.

I think we've got one more year before the new developments have the potential to change the Plakias we've all grown to love. If Plakias gets too busy, there's always Souda just down the road. There's really no shortage of quiet places to stay so I'm sure we will be returning to the area for many years to come.
I fear you may be right about "one more year" G&K. However, Souda is far from a replacement beach IMHO as unlike 10 years ago it isn't "farender" any more. If the Plakais far end goes or becomes a pale shadow of its former self then I'm off. There are other Greek island resorts I visit and in one case the beach is far better than Plakias'. However, none can quite match the ambience of Plakias or the interesting hinterland.

The global recession is bad news in just about every way but if it stops or slows down this development then that will be one benefit.

Mike

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« Reply #121 on: November 12, 2008, 03:18:24 PM »
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.... damn i'll just have to wait for my £25m from Nigeria
Are you a man of infinite patience or is it just the lasting effects of Babis' raki
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« Reply #122 on: November 12, 2008, 08:59:09 PM »
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.... damn i'll just have to wait for my £25m from Nigeria
Are you a man of infinite patience or is it just the lasting effects of Babis' raki

I may have no patience but definitely  have the lasting effects of Babis's Raki - he gave me 2 litres as we departed for home !!!!!!!

John R

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« Reply #123 on: November 13, 2008, 10:42:16 AM »
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I may have no patience but definitely  have the lasting effects of Babis's Raki - he gave me 2 litres as we departed for home !!!!!!!

John R


i may have recovered or it just be the pickling effect  

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« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2008, 11:32:31 AM »
I just found this on the web:
http://www.aipp.org.uk/aipp_members/fastro...316/member.html it says: "We are advised that Fastro Developments LLP has ceased to trade. Please direct enquiries to the above address."
Does this mean the sudden death for the plakias-resort? I hope none of our friendly forums' members will loose their savings in that project! Is there still any work in progress at the site now?


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« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2008, 06:09:20 PM »
I visited Plakias last month, the first time for many years and I was amazed to see the rows of advertising boards with artists impressions of all these proposed new apartments. In the current climate though that is all they are ever likely to be, artists impressions.
While I was at Plakias I got talking to a Greek business man who gave me the following advice. "On Crete we build a house for 80,000 euros and sell it to an Englishman for 300,000 euros". "This is fine until the Englishman wishes to sell because he has to find another English buyer as any Greek will know he could get one built for 80,000 euros"

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« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2008, 08:08:39 PM »
We returned after a week on 2nd Nov and there was still work going on at the development next to Paligremos. Only 5 workmen or so and a sarcastic "they're cracking on with this!" became the running joke of the holiday.

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« Reply #127 on: November 14, 2008, 09:50:42 AM »
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We returned after a week on 2nd Nov and there was still work going on at the development next to Paligremos. Only 5 workmen or so and a sarcastic "they're cracking on with this!" became the running joke of the holiday.
Does any member know if Fastro were partners in this development or merely selling agents?

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« Reply #128 on: November 14, 2008, 12:04:57 PM »
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Does any member know if Fastro were partners in this development or merely selling agents?

Robin Young

i got the impression they were agents, they were selling sites all over the world

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« Reply #129 on: November 14, 2008, 06:40:07 PM »
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..... "On Crete we build a house for 80,000 euros and sell it to an Englishman for 300,000 euros". ....

The nastiest part of that is the €300,000 was the equivalent of £200,000 18 months ago; now, the equivalent is £260,870!
Chas



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« Reply #130 on: November 21, 2008, 01:37:59 AM »
good to see their still keeping up with the tradition of ripping off total mugs.An old Cretan tradition,as i have pointed out on previous posts.
serves them all right for being so stupid,has no one ever seen what they build houses with on Crete? I built some of the rent rooms in plak and a fair bit of two of the hotels on Damnoni.The things cost nothing to build in terms of materials,the labour was done by a lot of dumb backpackers,now you lot pay silly money to stay there and complain when they build a new development.You are the source of the problem your moaning about,cut out the wailing and give the locals some more money.

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« Reply #131 on: November 21, 2008, 05:30:03 AM »
I guess, as we are so often told - a place is worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. Although we've not bought property in Crete, we've been sorely tempted. Yes we know we'd be paying over the odds but as we don't have months of spare time to be in Crete overseeing a private build and certainly don't have the skills to build a place ourselves, the options are only to 'put up or shut up'.
 
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« Reply #132 on: November 21, 2008, 01:10:33 PM »
Thou art so wise, Dimitri! I wish I had known earlier. I really meant that most of them were so generous and friendly people. Stupid me!
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« Reply #133 on: November 21, 2008, 08:00:39 PM »
Quote from: dimitri
good to see their still keeping up with the tradition of ripping off total mugs.An old Cretan tradition,as i have pointed out on previous posts.
serves them all right for being so stupid,has no one ever seen what they build houses with on Crete? I built some of the rent rooms in plak and a fair bit of two of the hotels on Damnoni.The things cost nothing to build in terms of materials,the labour was done by a lot of dumb backpackers,now you lot pay silly money to stay there and complain when they build a new development.You are the source of the problem your moaning about,cut out the wailing and give the locals some more money.


How good to see that Dimitri the Cretin is keeping up his charm offensive.

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« Reply #134 on: November 21, 2008, 09:08:00 PM »
Yes I look forward to reading his wonderful posts (not) chip?
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