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Plakias => Plakias => Topic started by: paxmere on June 16, 2006, 07:23:08 AM
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Returning from Plakias recently, I began to dream, like most of us I suppose, and began to look for houses or apartments that were for sale. I came across the following web site.
www.kretaeiendom.no
It claims that they have a development of 56 houses for sale in Plakias and 37 are already sold.
I cannot recall seeing building work of this size going on or any mention or sign advertising houses for sale.
Does anyone know if this is going ahead? Is this the begining of the end for Plakias as a quiet haven for us beach bums?
I heard that the old Meltemi site has been bought by owners of the Alianthos Gardens, presumably to be developed as a new hotel. Does all this mean that the Plakias area is going to be developed the same as the north coast of Crete?
I'm surprised not to have noted any comments from members concerning the new large block of Czech apartments with a horrid blue roof towards the back of the village.
As a new member, my apologies if all this has been discussed before I joined....
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Hallo paxmere and welcome to the forum!
I never saw the mentioned link before and I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the formerly discussed [ http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=415 (http://forums.plakias.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=415) ] "developments". Anyway it seems that the bay will be sold out in a few years. Slowly creeping towards the "far end" Very sad!
pax et bonum
shinaria
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Hiya mate
from the sound of it, they are planning to build them on the way up to mirtios, i can't say i saw any sign of them, i wonder if the 'we've already sold 37' is a sales ploy
I'm surprised not to have noted any comments from members concerning the new large block of Czech apartments with a horrid blue roof towards the back of the village.
i thought it was just me that hadn't noticed them before (no one mention that fountain) i'm not impressed with their colour scheme
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I heard that the old Meltemi site has been bought by owners of the Alianthos Gardens, presumably to be developed as a new hotel. Does all this mean that the Plakias area is going to be developed the same as the north coast of Crete?
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i have been thinking about this and i think we'll be a little better protected from 'full scale' development owing to the long transfers from hania or heraklion.
i see from the olympic brochure they are claiming a 2hr 45min transfer yeah well maybe if you're going straight through but we all know you can add another hour on to that if there's drop offs in rethminyon or bali. hopefully this will put off the more casual visitors
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I agree concerning the transfer time. However, these villas and apartments seem to be aimed at people who want to live in Plakias permanently or use as a rental income. Several property agents are also advertising the development, one quotes a completion date of November 2007. With the facilities that Plakias has to offer, excellent beaches, walking, etc., it s inevitable that the developers will move in.
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i'm sure you're right, it will happen. towards the end of the holiday we were saying it was the busiest we'd seen it in plak (in may) and it isn't going to go backwards
we've been talking about where we'd move on to, if it got too busy, we like the west but we'd miss the social life in plakias too much
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i see from the olympic brochure they are claiming a 2hr 45min transfer yeah well maybe if you're going straight through but we all know you can add another hour on to that if there's drop offs in rethminyon or bali. hopefully this will put off the more casual visitors
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Chris,
You were still away when I reported on my return that our Olympic transfers (Gatwick flight) were much better this year and were both well within 2hr 45 mins. Mind you the reps were somewhat disorganised at the airport on arrival!!! Hopefully they had listened to George and others who had moaned.
Mike
ps. I'm still chuckling at your being married to a posh bird!!
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You were still away when I reported on my return that our Olympic transfers (Gatwick flight) were much better this year and were both well within 2hr 45 mins. Mind you the reps were somewhat disorganised at the airport on arrival!!! Hopefully they had listened to George and others who had moaned.
Mike
ps. I'm still chuckling at your being married to a posh bird!!
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Mike
Did that include the Bali and reth. drop-offs as well? they have pulled their collective fingers out!
Posh Bird?? she thought knives and forks were jewellery when i brought her to Manchester
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Did that include the Bali and reth. drop-offs as well? they have pulled their collective fingers out!
Posh Bird?? she thought knives and forks were jewellery when i brought her to Manchester
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Chris,
There was one stop in Bali and just one in Rethymnon on each leg I think.
Mike
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We arrived back from Plakias this morning after 18 days in Crete. The last week was spent in a villa in Lefkogia and the development you are talking about is bang in front of the villa we've rented for the past two years June visits.
We were sunbathing au nutural on two consecutive days when a group of folk arrived in the fields adjacent to us complete with rep from kretaeiendom and sets of plans. Coincidentally we were having lunch on Thursday at the taberna at Damnoni beach and the same group were discussing the project over sets of plans with the same female rep.
So that is where the development is. There are no ground or site works as yet but one of the developer's sales team said the time scale was a minimum of one year to having units ready.
As you head for Lefkogia, there is a slip road to the left up opposite the EKO gas station, into the olive groves. Take the first rough road to the left and you come to a sort of T junction and the fields immediately ahead of you is the site. There are two white villas on the ridge up the dirt road to the right, one of them Villa Thymari is where we stay. But we will not be back! The peace and calm of the villa will disappear along with the view over the fields to Plakias Bay.
Apart from discovering the shattering news, we had a fantastic time in Plakias/ Lefkogia and a side trip to Elounda, Sitia, Mochlos (unmissable fishing village), Vai an Xerocambos beaches and Ierapetra. It'll take us all the next year to face another mountain hairpin bend!!!
Plakias was great as ever. Rain one day!!! hot most of the rest of our stay and VERY windy almost all of 14 days there. Town got busier towards the end of this week with more young folk arriving and we managed a "meet" with Alex and Fran, fellow Scots on the forum.
Have a great holiday anyone else there or about to arrive.
Doggie
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hmmmm
there are more pictures on the site now, showing where it will be built
kretaeiendom (http://www.kretaeiendom.no/showpage.asp?id=1697)
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That looks horrendous, remember 'Eldorado'?
george g...
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That looks horrendous, remember 'Eldorado'?
george g...
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reminds me of the Hapimag at Damnoni as well
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That crossed my mind too Chris!
I only went in there once and felt like 'The Prisoner'
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haha!! i know exactly what you mean
port merion is just such a false place and totally out of character
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The GHETTO
Thats what the locals are refering to the new development as, no matter who I spoke to not one single person was in favour, even Taverna owners said they did not want it.
Happimag looks bad enough but this development will not only ruin Plakias but it will make Happimag look appealing.
Having spoken at length to members of the ex-pats comunity the whole thing seems to be one big rip off, they informed me that the detailed plans they had managed to "obtain" gave very conflicting reading,
plans showing the "little" pool area with 2 sun bed loungers with umbrella just did not add up with the figures quoted also the sizes of the rooms was very suspect. If it's privicy you want then forget it, you wouldn't be able to **** (never mind) without everyone around you knowing.
All monies had to be paid up front and there was also a 50 Euro a month maintenance charge for the first 5 years.
So there you are, if you were thinking of purchasing one of them you have been warned.
John & Zell
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We arrived back from Plakias this morning after 18 days in Crete. The last week was spent in a villa in Lefkogia and the development you are talking about is bang in front of the villa we've rented for the past two years June visits.
We were sunbathing au nutural on two consecutive days when a group of folk arrived in the fields adjacent to us complete with rep from kretaeiendom and sets of plans. Coincidentally we were having lunch on Thursday at the taberna at Damnoni beach and the same group were discussing the project over sets of plans with the same female rep.
So that is where the development is. There are no ground or site works as yet but one of the developer's sales team said the time scale was a minimum of one year to having units ready.
As you head for Lefkogia, there is a slip road to the left up opposite the EKO gas station, into the olive groves. Take the first rough road to the left and you come to a sort of T junction and the fields immediately ahead of you is the site. There are two white villas on the ridge up the dirt road to the right, one of them Villa Thymari is where we stay. But we will not be back! The peace and calm of the villa will disappear along with the view over the fields to Plakias Bay.
Apart from discovering the shattering news, we had a fantastic time in Plakias/ Lefkogia and a side trip to Elounda, Sitia, Mochlos (unmissable fishing village), Vai an Xerocambos beaches and Ierapetra. It'll take us all the next year to face another mountain hairpin bend!!!
Plakias was great as ever. Rain one day!!! hot most of the rest of our stay and VERY windy almost all of 14 days there. Town got busier towards the end of this week with more young folk arriving and we managed a "meet" with Alex and Fran, fellow Scots on the forum.
Have a great holiday anyone else there or about to arrive.
Doggy
Unfortunately there are 2 developments one in Plakias on main road out on left just down hill towards Mirthios junction & then also 8 Villas in Lefkogia see www.iddillyliclocation.co.uk it's such a shame lets hope distance from airports & the Plakias wind puts people off...
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These guys are Norwegians You have been kind enough not to metion it, but I am still ashamed on behalf of the whole nation
Tom
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These guys are Norwegians You have been kind enough not to metion it, but I am still ashamed on behalf of the whole nation
Tom
I don't think anyone will hold that against you Tom! I'm sure everyone will agree that the brits have done plenty of development on the island too , just look at what's happening to the surrounding areas of Chania !
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I went over to the Kalives Vamos area last year and it's like 'Barretts gone BERSERK!!!'
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These guys are Norwegians You have been kind enough not to metion it, but I am still ashamed on behalf of the whole nation
Tom
I don't think anyone will hold that against you Tom!
No!! let's blame Tom anyway
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Old or New?
Driving down from Mirthios we noticed a large unfinished building in the middle of the valley (towards Prevelli)-which looked a bit like a hotel. Does anyone know what this is-or was?
Brian
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Sometimes, even when started, these developments aren't completed. Has anyone been to the "Goat Hotel" (so called by Lance Chilton in his walking books) above Mariou? This is an enormous shell of a building that was obviously going to be a really large hotel with a fabulous view. Very isolated though, which is maybe the reason it wasn't completed. Now occupied by a large flock of goats, with a smell to match!! It is visible for miles away if you know where to look.
Mike
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Old or New?
Driving down from Mirthios we noticed a large unfinished building in the middle of the valley (towards Prevelli)-which looked a bit like a hotel. Does anyone know what this is-or was?
Brian
It has been there like that ever since we started coming in 1998. There was an anticipated ultra major boom in tourism in the late 1980's which never really materialised and many unfinished holiday projects litter the island.
John R
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Old or New?
Driving down from Mirthios we noticed a large unfinished building in the middle of the valley (towards Prevelli)-which looked a bit like a hotel. Does anyone know what this is-or was?
Brian
that sounds like the one on the way down to Shinaria beach, i can't remember it's name, it was finished but was abandoned like the marie ceste
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Old or New?
Driving down from Mirthios we noticed a large unfinished building in the middle of the valley (towards Prevelli)-which looked a bit like a hotel. Does anyone know what this is-or was?
Brian
that sounds like the one on the way down to Shinaria beach, i can't remember it's name, it was finished but was abandoned like the marie ceste
No I think it will be the one in the middle of the plain - very large indeed and definitely unfinished. It is not on any beach road - unless I've got my sense of perspective wromh (maybe ??)
John R
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We were told by an estate agent who works in Rethymno (inspection tour) that the big hotel complex had been built speculatively
The builders failed to obtain planning permission and so stopped
So, there is some regulation in the area .... at least there was !
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haha!! i know exactly what you mean
port merion is just such a false place and totally out of character
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haha!! i know exactly what you mean
port merion is just such a false place and totally out of character
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welcome to the forum jake!
but i'm afraid that link didn't work (or doesn't for me)
No I think it will be the one in the middle of the plain - very large indeed and definitely unfinished. It is not on any beach road - unless I've got my sense of perspective wromh (maybe ??)
John R
i still can't think where this place is
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To get to the unfinished hotel (that I think you are referring to), come out of Plakias, turning to go to Lefkoyia. Take the second left after the Petrol Station, climbing up towards Mariou. it's on the left. We have been in it a couple of times although when it's really windy you feel like you're in danger of being hit by a falling tile or similar.
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These guys are Norwegians You have been kind enough not to metion it, but I am still ashamed on behalf of the whole nation
Tom
I don't think anyone will hold that against you Tom!
No!! let's blame Tom anyway
Yes, blame me. BLAME ME. (I'm on a guilt trip)
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No I think it will be the one in the middle of the plain - very large indeed and definitely unfinished. It is not on any beach road - unless I've got my sense of perspective wromh (maybe ??)
John R
i still can't think where this place is
Over the years I have gotten so used to the modern ruins dotting the landscap that I hardly notice them anymore. I would not have clue about which house you are trying to find. On a clear day last summer I did notice, with pleasure, that a few houses that were left unfinished all throu the 80s and 90s had been completed and now was occupied by local families. There is still hope. Lets ask Hermes to contain kretaeindom and their like.
Tom
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haha!! i know exactly what you mean
port merion is just such a false place and totally out of character
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welcome to the forum jake!
but i'm afraid that link didn't work (or doesn't for me)
No I think it will be the one in the middle of the plain - very large indeed and definitely unfinished. It is not on any beach road - unless I've got my sense of perspective wromh (maybe ??)
John R
i still can't think where this place is
Hi Once again, sorry about previous post pressed the wrong button!!!
I have bought a villa in the new development in Plakias,I thought they were great value and has everything I need.I've been to Plakias once on a short visit and thought it was a beautiful place.I know that the building of this development will detract from this very beauty, but they were going to build this site if I bought or not.I would prefer that they left it unspoilt, but it is their land to do what they want with.One of the reasons I bought there is this very website,I could see all the posive comments and feelings for the place that it did make a major contribution to my decision.
The agent says they start the build in 08 06 and should be finished late 07 or early 08 and he says it is mosty Norweigians and British who are buying.I looked at the developers website and there is only 3 of the 56 still to be sold,and when I spoke to him he said it was amazing how quickly they have gone.Going back to Plakais in October,cant wait
jake
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I've been inactive in this forum for umpteen months now but still been a regular visitor to P - last october and this easter (greek easter) were the last times
I'm trying to place where this development is - one of our sons is over there at the mo and tells me that there is a big project at the end of the lane our land is on - thats just as you come in to P from Lefkogia there are two lanes at the left by some wooden signs (for Phaedra etc) - one lane goes down to the beach the other one goes past the new school and our land and on to damnoni - anyway my son reckons theres a development at that corner on the main road - is that the one thats being referred to here?
Our planning permission came through a couple of months ago - we suffered quite a few delays because we eventually decided to go for EOT approval and umpteen things had to be changed (including putting a ramp down to the swimming pool - hmm - had to agree it but not sure about that one) - so excavations and building are imminent - only about a year late. I wonder how these developers manage to get the plans through so fast (i may just have an idea)
all the news about the development has me a bit jittery now though. I suppose if it all goes akladi-shaped and the ravaging hordes move in we could always sell and move on - hope we havent left it too late to enjoy
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Paleo,
Dave and I have spent ages trying to suss out from the internet and where the advertising board is as to where the development is going to be. As far as we can work out it will be on the right hand side of the road as you come into Plakias starting at the junction you are referring to and going down the hill. Not sure what is going to happen to the two houses that are situation there!!
Ali
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Paleo,
Dave and I have spent ages trying to suss out from the internet and where the advertising board is as to where the development is going to be. As far as we can work out it will be on the right hand side of the road as you come into Plakias starting at the junction you are referring to and going down the hill. Not sure what is going to happen to the two houses that are situation there!!
Ali
We noticed this sign last October
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Leen
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I see that 40% of the Plakias Panorama places have been bought by Norwegians. The full breakdown of ownership by nationality is at http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?artic...on=article& (http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?article_id=71&page=12&action=article&)
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I see that 40% of the Plakias Panorama places have been bought by Norwegians. The full breakdown of ownership by nationality is at [url]http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?artic...on=article&[/url] ([url]http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?article_id=71&page=12&action=article&[/url])
According to the website, that means so far that 21.6 apartments have been purchased/reserved by Norwegians, 11.88 apartments for Danes and Brits and so on...with 0.54 of an apartment sold to a person of Saudi Arabian nationality!
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I see that 40% of the Plakias Panorama places have been bought by Norwegians. The full breakdown of ownership by nationality is at [url]http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?artic...on=article&[/url] ([url]http://www.kretaeiendom.no/index.php?article_id=71&page=12&action=article&[/url])
According to the website, that means so far that 21.6 apartments have been purchased/reserved by Norwegians, 11.88 apartments for Danes and Brits and so on...with 0.54 of an apartment sold to a person of Saudi Arabian nationality!
Maybe the percentage values have been rounded down instead of being rounded to the nearest percent
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Maybe the percentage values have been rounded down instead of being rounded to the nearest percent
No, that doesn't work.
1 apartment = 1.85%, rounded down to 1%
2 apartments = 3.7%, rounded down to 3%
So how do you explain Sweden's 2%?
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Maybe the percentage values have been rounded down instead of being rounded to the nearest percent
No, that doesn't work.
1 apartment = 1.85%, rounded down to 1%
2 apartments = 3.7%, rounded down to 3%
So how do you explain Sweden's 2%?
I guess they could be calculating it on land area or some apartments could have shared ownership or maybe maths just isn't their strong point.
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Hi, all,
Trust me to make my first post here in a contentious thread (http://zorbas.de/scripts/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_exclaim.gif)
One detail that seems to have been overlooked here is "the infrastructure" - there has been some info about the new roads inside the development but what (if anything) has been done about water and drainage services (http://zorbas.de/scripts/phpBB2/images/smiles/icon_question.gif)
Past experience elsewhere in Greece makes me believe that the new-build will just be tacked onto the existing systems. Bad news for everyone - water pressure will drop and sewage will overload - I've seen it happen.
A development of the indicated size will need its own, dedicated wet-services.
If Santa is around and reads this, it's another item to put on the list for the mayor.
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OK here's the first pics of them, they aren't where i thought they were going to be built. the location is on the right of the road as you are going down into town, about 500m from the myrthios junction
(http://harribobs.smugmug.com/photos/160552420-M.jpg)
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here you can see the building site from the sea front, taken from just in front of antonis place
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Going by the last pic Chris, it looks like the site is right where the sign was, on the right hand side of the road going down the hill from the Oasis.
Did you put in a reservation?
george g...
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Did you put in a reservation?
george g...
ermm.... no
i think i could find a much better place if i had £76,000 to spend on a place in crete
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Did you put in a reservation?
george g...
ermm.... no
i think i could find a much better place if i had £76,000 to spend on a place in crete
Dam' right ... those things look like rabbit hutches built to a plan for a chicken-battery
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I wallked past the site this morning (yesterday as it's now after midnight). The sign looks as though as it's a big development but what they are doing so far is nothing to worry about considering other developments around the village. There is a new school that has built since i was last here - on one of the roads to Damnoni
Greecemad
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Just returned from Plakias, I noticed further construction is going on around the area. One new building on the left as you drop down the hill into the village, before the church. Purpose unknown.
The one day I noticed a prepaired area opposite the bakery, in front of the Alianthos. A couple of days later a small porta cabin arrived and signs were fitted, although over three or four days I did not notice any selling staff whilst I was there, just electicains fitting out the cabin.
The cabin is promotomg a new development by Gasparakis Constrution. See www.gasparakisconstructions.com
This seems to be a development of thirteen houses out side Lefkogia, looking towards Plakias. So Plakias Panorarma was just the begining it seems!!
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Just returned from Plakias, I noticed further construction is going on around the area. One new building on the left as you drop down the hill into the village, before the church. Purpose unknown.
The one day I noticed a prepaired area opposite the bakery, in front of the Alianthos. A couple of days later a small porta cabin arrived and signs were fitted, although over three or four days I did not notice any selling staff whilst I was there, just electicains fitting out the cabin.
The cabin is promotomg a new development by Gasparakis Constrution. See www.gasparakisconstructions.com
This seems to be a development of thirteen houses out side Lefkogia, looking towards Plakias. So Plakias Panorarma was just the begining it seems!!
I returned from Plakias yesterday. The new building before the church is going to be a carwash!
Even more worrying a waiter in Kri Kri was using a handheld to take orders!
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Just returned from Plakias, I noticed further construction is going on around the area. One new building on the left as you drop down the hill into the village, before the church. Purpose unknown.
The one day I noticed a prepaired area opposite the bakery, in front of the Alianthos. A couple of days later a small porta cabin arrived and signs were fitted, although over three or four days I did not notice any selling staff whilst I was there, just electicains fitting out the cabin.
The cabin is promotomg a new development by Gasparakis Constrution. See www.gasparakisconstructions.com
This seems to be a development of thirteen houses out side Lefkogia, looking towards Plakias. So Plakias Panorarma was just the begining it seems!!
I noticed two new buildings going up on the left.
Greecemad
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Been back from Crete for two weeks now and it all seems like a distant dream but in fact it was our best holiday EVER in Crete. I should explain that after years of Plakias holidays, the fields in front of the villa we've rented in Lefkogia for the past few years have been developed since our visit last June. When we realised that a major development adjacent to the"luxury villa Thymari" was in the offing, we decided it was time to move on and explore new parts of Crete. So this year we had one week in Gavalahori to sample the North coast and two weeks in Agia Galini. The heat wave and constant hot wind from the Libyan deserts that surprised us for a few days we even began to enjoy!
On the day we returned to Plakias to see Ikarus Jewellery studio in Sellia, Marcus in Candia, Sofia at Limani appartments et al. friends, we drove up the road opposite the gas station outside Lefkogia, took the first left then a right at the T junction to see our beloved villa again, but now totally drowned by a development of impressive looking stone built villas. The pool was empty and the villa looked deserted.
We set off for Shinaria where we've spent many happy sun filled hours over the years and even that didn't feel as it once did. We've now refound Liggres Beach, newly discovered Kommo, Farago and other South coat paradise beaches, new tavernas and music bars etc. and had a wonderful three weeks in this superb island.
Chatting to some of the Plakiots, we were really surprised that they didn't seem to want the expected growth in permanent residents which would have helped their businesses grow, but the opinions seemed to be that they were happy with the way things were and didn't want any change despite the feeling Ive had that Plakias is quieter now than when we started holidaying there. Anyway, I was told the plan is to have a permanent resident population of 4,000 in Plakias year round. So if that ain't change, what is? and will it be good or bad for Plakias?
We loved Ag. Galini and I hope that that doesn't upset the friends of Plakias and have us drummed off the forum. I still have a soft spot for Plakias and will follow the forum news as before. Plakias and Ag Galini. Each has it's own merits and each of us has our own holiday priorities and objectives! One thing Maree and I agree on totally, the South of Crete rather than the North coast, has a magic that stirs the soul and that is where we will always enjoy the fun, food, drink and friendship of Crete and Cretans.
Happy days and all the best
Doggie
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Doggie
sounds like you and Maree had a great time and that's the most important thing!
I've never quite warmed to agia galini but to be honest i've never stayed over and probably should, i love the sign as you drive in which says 'welcome home'
Ligres and kommos..beautiful beaches, great places to relax (ligres is fast becoming my favourite)
nice to hear that you went to see yanni in sellia, he made my wedding ring and we make sure we visit him (and his gorgeous wife) whenever we're in crete ( mandy has a nice collection of his silver now)
cheers
chris