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« Reply #135 on: January 07, 2009, 01:22:58 PM »
FYI - I phoned the Mitchell Charlesworth number - they confirm that Fastro has gone into liquidation.

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« Reply #136 on: January 08, 2009, 11:20:37 AM »
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FYI - I phoned the Mitchell Charlesworth number - they confirm that Fastro has gone into liquidation.

Good idea! Thank you very much!

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« Reply #137 on: January 09, 2009, 05:50:11 PM »
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good to see their still keeping up with the tradition of ripping off total mugs.An old Cretan tradition,as i have pointed out on previous posts.
serves them all right for being so stupid,has no one ever seen what they build houses with on Crete? I built some of the rent rooms in plak and a fair bit of two of the hotels on Damnoni.The things cost nothing to build in terms of materials,the labour was done by a lot of dumb backpackers,now you lot pay silly money to stay there and complain when they build a new development.You are the source of the problem your moaning about,cut out the wailing and give the locals some more money.


Let's please put this in persective, let's face it all over the world building projects have failed.  Yes, no one wanted this in Plakias but world economics effect us the same as else where.  Again Dimitri comes up with 'us and them' why do we keep having to  listen to this.  If he has ever done any work here, bravo,  but I do not believe it.  When I see the difference between the Plakias Resorts site and the Appollonia Villas Site (which is still going ahead) the only difference is the management and believe me the Plakias Resorts management is so much better (tidying up rubbish, controlling work flows etc.).

This guy has not been in this area for years he does not know or understand (and I believe has never understood) the locals

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« Reply #138 on: January 09, 2009, 10:58:53 PM »
Quote from: Ali & Dave
This guy has not been in this area for years he does not know or understand (and I believe has never understood) the locals

Ali


absolutely agree with you there Ali , he really impressed me with his knowledge of cretan builders  (dumb backpackers) yep  they really are flooding the building sites now  (of course he may not understand irony as well)

another one of his main whinges is that Cretans are going to rip us off, as fast and as much as they can...

Crete is the only place in the world where :-

where i have been told my room rate has been reduced from what i originally agreed when i came to pay

where the aircon controller appeared without payment in very hot weather

where litres of wine appear on the table but not on the bill

where i had to go three times to a taverna  before i could pay for my beer

where people i have never met welcome me into their homes

where people who can't talk to me ( my greek is poor at best) want to sit with us


i know where i'd rather be....





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« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2009, 02:10:40 PM »
If Fastro has gone into liquidation, does this mean that the development on the way to the far end has stopped or has it been taken over by another developer?

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« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2009, 08:16:14 PM »
Good question Mike G - I don't think its possible to tell. I think that technically all that liquidation means is that the company is terminated and its assets are sold to pay its creditors. So presumably some one/corporation has bought the assets (the new buyers can of course be the original owners). Also it is not possible to know what Fastro's involvement was in what could be a tangled web of land owners, builders, developers, agents ,etc. etc.

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« Reply #141 on: April 29, 2009, 04:01:18 PM »
Is there anything going on there ...?
Maybe someone has been there recently and could give us an update?

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« Reply #142 on: June 25, 2009, 10:16:59 AM »
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Is there anything going on there ...?
Maybe someone has been there recently and could give us an update?

shinaria


there is a small amount of work still going on, i never saw more than 6 workers on site and they seem to be more interested in shouting at each other and smoking rather than working



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« Reply #143 on: June 25, 2009, 10:31:48 AM »
Same story when we were there at the end of May.  Occasionally a handful of guys drifting around but nothing you'd actually call 'work'.  Same phenomenon at home, mind you - sites ticking over, but not enough bodies for any real progress.  Cashflow and liquidity being at the root of all things these days, but in this case long may it continue.

Just to add something to Haribob's excellent January post about Cretan generosity:  we toured right round the island over a fortnight in late May, and as I was traveling with rather pregnant missus and toddler, I nervously booked ahead for all but one stop.  Not one single place  asked for a deposit (including Costas Chrysoulas in Plakias), or anything more than an idea of what time of day we'd be arriving.  That kind of simple trust from a host is simply unprecedented in Europe, in my experience, downturn in business or not.

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« Reply #144 on: June 25, 2009, 09:07:20 PM »
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Quote from: shinaria
Is there anything going on there ...?
Maybe someone has been there recently and could give us an update?

shinaria

there is a small amount of work still going on, i never saw more than 6 workers on site and they seem to be more interested in shouting at each other and smoking rather than working


I never saw as many 6 workers. Mostly there were none. Very little seemed to be going on. I have a very similar photo. Now I have seen where this development is, I am sure it will have no effect on the far end. On the beach there is a big empty space in front of this development with no umbrellas, so there looks to be plenty of space if they want to have some.

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« Reply #145 on: August 22, 2009, 11:53:44 AM »
This site has pictures taken on 23 July 2009 from within the site...
click here
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« Reply #146 on: August 22, 2009, 06:42:43 PM »
It's nothing more than a pipe-dream at the moment.  

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« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2009, 04:00:10 PM »
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This site has pictures taken on 23 July 2009 from within the site...
click here


that bloody site is using one of my photos!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2009, 04:29:39 PM »
Quote from: harribobs
Quote from: compage
This site has pictures taken on 23 July 2009 from within the site...
click here


that bloody site is using one of my photos!!!!!!!!!!  


I recognised that as one of yours. There was me thinking you had gone over to the enemy. !!

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« Reply #149 on: August 24, 2009, 08:38:12 AM »
That looks really trashy!   It will need more than one coat of paint to make it look like a state of the art concrete-building ...

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